Media LC 250 & GX550 Picture Thread (8 Viewers)

[APIOQM]

What does Plant: TMC mean?

 

[OGBeno]

What does Plant: TMC mean?

Toyota Motor Corporation

 

[Corbet]

Interesting... the "Land Cruiser" and the First Edition share the same Japan Model Code. The only difference is the sales model code.

Footnote: The 80 series was a 6154.

I saw that also. I’m assuming because mechanically they are the same and only differ in options and the headlights were as the 1958. Is missing the sway bar disconnect and probably some other stuff.

 

[Corbet]

most people who claim to want a 70 Series would change their mind if they actually drove one.

true statement. I want one but wouldn’t daily drive one.

 

[TheRealDeal124]

I’ve never agreed with you more in my life. The people that pine after a 70 usually haven’t spent a lot of time with them.

Not to go off topic, but I wheeled in one of these for a few years before I got my 80. How would a similiar wheelbase 7x compare against a Wrangler Unlimited LJ (103.4")? I'm not expecting a cushy ride, and would love to combine the simplicity of an 06 TJU and the quality and reliability of a 7x. For $65,000 I'd buy a 7x. Of course TCCN has many years of experience with a 70 in his home country of Iraq and told me he'd be willing to service one except for diesels.

 

[Knowbuddy]

Not to go off topic, but I wheeled in one of these for a few years before I got my 80. How would a similiar wheelbase 7x compare against a Wrangler Unlimited LJ (103.4")? I'm not expecting a cushy ride, and would love to combine the simplicity of an 06 TJU and the quality and reliability of a 7x. For $65,000 I'd buy a 7x. Of course TCCN has many years of experience with a 70 in his home country of Iraq and told me he'd be willing to service one except for diesels.

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I can’t speak for swb as I’ve only driven a handful but daily drove a troopy for a year. I loved it. But it was taxing. Fun to wheel although to me troopies fall short wheeling and mid wheel base or short wheel base would be a blast. I can’t say what your needs are. But I get sick of everyone thinking the 70 series is a magic bullet. Toyota knows our market and pining or complaining won’t change what they do. The same people that complain also aren’t buying a 25 year old 70. If they really wanted them they would buy one. But if you want a 70 buy one. I did and I’ll own more in the future:

 

[TheRealDeal124]

I can’t speak for swb as I’ve only driven a handful but daily drove a troopy for a year. I loved it. But it was taxing. Fun to wheel although to me troopies fall short wheeling and mid wheel base or short wheel base would be a blast. I can’t say what your needs are. But I get sick of everyone thinking the 70 series is a magic bullet. Toyota knows our market and pining or complaining won’t change what they do. The same people that complain also aren’t buying a 25 year old 70. If they really wanted them they would buy one. But if you want a 70 buy one. I did and I’ll own more in the future:

They made more 70s than 80s, as far as I can tell, and future parts availability has me leaning more into the 70s than 80s when I think of what I want to drive in the next 10 years. I drive a UPS package car around, I don't mind being uncomfortable. I'll likely go the 25 year old 70 route rather than buy a 250 if I wanted to spend $55k plus.

 

[APIOQM]

Toyota Motor Corporation

Ah, so no indication of what plant they will be made in?

 

[OGBeno]

Ah, so no indication of what plant they will be made in?

Tahara.

 

[Knowbuddy]

They made more 70s than 80s, as far as I can tell, and future parts availability has me leaning more into the 70s than 80s when I think of what I want to drive in the next 10 years. I drive a UPS package car around, I don't mind being uncomfortable. I'll likely go the 25 year old 70 route rather than buy a 250 if I wanted to spend $55k plus.

Like I said I love them. Parts are fun and fairly easy. But driving my 61 and my 75 back to back I definitely prefer the 61 for a little more plush and less raw ride. All that said I’m always on the hunt for a bj74, or hzj77. But also plan to have a 250 in my stable as well.

 

[LCHOU]

GX review

 

[Rednexus]

They made more 70s than 80s, as far as I can tell, and future parts availability has me leaning more into the 70s than 80s when I think of what I want to drive in the next 10 years. I drive a UPS package car around, I don't mind being uncomfortable. I'll likely go the 25 year old 70 route rather than buy a 250 if I wanted to spend $55k plus.

If you prefer the simplicity of the older powertrains and widespread parts availability, with $55K to spend, why not a lightly-used GX460? Other than MPG and 50 HP, I'm not convinced it leaves that much on the table relative to a 250 and is very similar in size to an 80.

I think 70s are cool but would personally not buy one if they were sold here. It would be way overkill for the kind of wheeling I have around here, and I haven't really enjoyed driving many solid front axle vehicles. IFS rig on 33s that tows/handles well on the highway, is comfortable, and has decent power is perfect for my needs.

 

[M1911]

If you prefer the simplicity of the older powertrains and widespread parts availability, with $55K to spend, why not a lightly-used GX460?

When it was time to replace my ‘03 V8 4Runner, I test drove the 2016 GX450 three times. I wanted to like it, but I just didn’t.

From a styling perspective, IMO the spindle grille is both hideous and wrecks the approach angle. The barn door is a love or hate thing — I’m on the hate side. The thick D-pillar, tall 2nd row headrests, and small rear window make rear and three-quarter visibility poor. The integrated third row does fold flat, but if you remove it you have bare metal floor and sides, and if you leave it in place you lose 25% of the cargo room compared to the 5th Gen 4Runner. With the 2nd row folded, the 5th Gen has 80 cu ft of cargo room. With the 2nd and 3rd row folded, the GX 460 has only 60 cu ft of cargo room. That’s not enough cargo room for me.

The high belt line makes the interior feel like a dungeon. The GX 460s V8 sounds nice, but it is soft on torque at low rpm, resulting in the truck being leisurely off the line. Fuel economy is terrible. I found the front seats to be uncomfortable — it felt like there was a hard rim at the edge of the seat cushion diffing into my thighs.

I bought a used 200 instead of a new GX460. I liked the exterior size of the GX, but the interior was simply too small for me. It’s too bad because the 200 is bigger than I need.

So, yes, the GX460 has a simple drivetrain, but there is a lot that you have to put up with.

 

[Acrad]

I can't remember offhand how much room the removal of the 2nd & 3rd row adds on 460 or what space is on the 2 row 460s in Eurasian market.

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[Oakleyguy]

GX review

Too long didn't watch (TLDW): No driving impressions.

 

[carboncycles]

GX review

Good grief...someone sign these 2 asshats up for how to shoot a video. I feel like I'm watching the same ppl who shot blaire witch for the 550.

 

[M1911]

I can't remember offhand how much room the removal of the 2nd & 3rd row adds on 460 or what space is on the 2 row 460s in Eurasian market.

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With just two rows, it is probably close to the 5th gen 4Runner — 80 cu ft.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

 

[Jstawgn]

@cruiseroutfit Kurt, GX550 would have dual snorkel or would be piped inside engine bay to become single?

 

[Rednexus]

Looks good in the flesh....definitely like a Toyota SUV should look. I also like the bronze Taco wheels although a different color would have been preferrable with the desert paint.