Yeah the roads weren't too bad, took an alternate route and worked out. Just about the crack a beer open now! Snow Day sounds appropriate for tonight
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KM2's Terrifying in Winter Conditions
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rain76king
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I run the KM2 on my truck and live in New England.
Last year was one of our worst winters on record and I have 0 complaints.
To be honest I always thought the BFG AT's were the worst tire in the snow.
My .02
Last year was one of our worst winters on record and I have 0 complaints.
To be honest I always thought the BFG AT's were the worst tire in the snow.
My .02
Luke111
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I have a few questions...A few of you have great things to say about Trxus MT's but few are running them...whats the down side...are they not radials?
From thier web site ...confirming how the handle in snow and ice
TrXus MT
The NEW TrXus Mud Terrain is INTERCO'S answer to the need of those who want a smooth, super quiet ride with tough, thick sidewalls with a chip and cut resistant compound. This tire has more siping than any other mud terrain on the market; which has proven to be almost magical in icy snowy conditions. These same traction features make this tire a serious rock climber. Each TrXus Mud Terrain tire has its individual specifications and is heavier than the original equipment tires of comparable size. Many brands of tires are made from generic specifications which means there are many "brand names" coming out of a particular factory but all the tires have a common specification basic body or casing. The only difference is the mold the tire is cured in. The tires will have different tread designs but the body of the tire is common to many others of the same size but under various names.
From thier web site ...confirming how the handle in snow and ice
TrXus MT
iptman
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KM2s have no siping, just big fat blocks. Back during Snowmaggedan my KM2s were very slick in the slush/ice and pack snow.
If one was to take their KM2's to a shop to get siped, are there any nasty long term side effects? ie "chunking" ?
Hanook mt
Anyone have experience with the hanook mt tire? The mt is for max-traction. This is my 1st winter on them, they appear to be decent but not a studded tire.
Anyone have experience with the hanook mt tire? The mt is for max-traction. This is my 1st winter on them, they appear to be decent but not a studded tire.
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I will post some pics of mine, although I don't think it did much, but to be honest I was not on the snow with them prior. I used one of those heated tire groovers and did the middle tread blocks. By doing it myself I was able to keep the sipes consistent and in the middle of the tread blocks in hopes that it would reduce chunking. I probably went down about a 1/4" or so into the tread too. I might sipe the outer tread blocks tomorrow and see if that helps.
In my experience any time you sipe a tire, it'll be far more likely to chunk. Some do it worse than others.
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Dan I'm pretty sure her's are 315's as are mine. I like them a lot for winter and had them studded for such purpose. I can not comment on the trail usage personally. But the sidewalls are very thin IMO for hard play in the rocks.
But for 95% of users I don't think you could find a better year round tire that needs to work well in snow.
The tread blocks on any "mud" tire is not particularly conducive to great ice/hard pack snow situations. all tires have compromises. My GY Mtr's (old style) suck in wet road and any ice/snow situation. The firestone studded, siped skinny tires I just put on make it very predictable but would not trail ride them.
My audi allroad with an all season tire is ok in the snow. The same car with Nokian Hakka 2 studs is a track star in the snow and ice, but obviosly can't push them on normal pavement like my GY F1 allseasons. Tread patterns and compounds for any situation have + and -'s. Look at rally racing (or any racing) and the effect of tire choice has on race results. Pick your majority condition and a tire that fits. Or even better, many tire choices mounted on wheels, employees to swap them, storage and different vehicles to boot. Pick what you need for the drive at hand.
My audi allroad with an all season tire is ok in the snow. The same car with Nokian Hakka 2 studs is a track star in the snow and ice, but obviosly can't push them on normal pavement like my GY F1 allseasons. Tread patterns and compounds for any situation have + and -'s. Look at rally racing (or any racing) and the effect of tire choice has on race results. Pick your majority condition and a tire that fits. Or even better, many tire choices mounted on wheels, employees to swap them, storage and different vehicles to boot. Pick what you need for the drive at hand.
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Anyone who runs mud tires on their DD and lives any where it could snow, should just sipe them. In my experience a well siped mud tire is close to or as good as most at tires on snow and ice. With no siping they are "don't let the wife drive it" tires. I have siped several mud tires and the difference from no sipes to sipes is monumental.
I push my tires pretty hard in the rocks (holy cross type trails) and have had minimal problems with chunking. I will never again run a mud tire with no sipes. And it only cost $60 for all four.
kc
Anyone who runs mud tires on their DD and lives any where it could snow, should just sipe them. In my experience a well siped mud tire is close to or as good as most at tires on snow and ice. With no siping they are "don't let the wife drive it" tires. I have siped several mud tires and the difference from no sipes to sipes is monumental.
I push my tires pretty hard in the rocks (holy cross type trails) and have had minimal problems with chunking. I will never again run a mud tire with no sipes. And it only cost $60 for all four.
kc
I have the 315 KM2s on my 80 and drove in the snow this morning (from Parker to Aurora and back). They weren't that bad. Compared to a lot of other awd vehicles, I think I had the least amount of slipping and sliding around. The roads were really slick today - there's not a tire out there that's going to negate the effects, unless you are running studs.
Tomorrow is going to be even worse. I might drive my cummins just because it has a set of hancook ATMs on it and they flat out kick ass.
Tomorrow is going to be even worse. I might drive my cummins just because it has a set of hancook ATMs on it and they flat out kick ass.
I have run the cooper stt's in different types of snow on different occasions and they have done well. I have not had a chance to try the toyo mt's that replaced them yet.
Siping KM2's
Back to the OP, siping will help transform the KM2's IME/O, into a very capable winter tire. IIRC, the authorized siping outlets at Discount Tire charge 15-20per tire, and on the KM2, it's a deal at twice that. When I had it done, I went from finding the KM2 downright dangerous (on road) winter tires, to very good winter tires with the addition of siping. And, they did everything the KM2's are known to do well, went I went back the next summer, to doing rocks with my old 4R. I found very little chunking that I could attribute to the sipes.
All that said, there are a lot of better winter tires that will outperform the KM2, even siped. But if you already own the KM2, and Santa isn't dropping a set of Hakka Vatiiva or Blizzack DMV1 in your stocking, under 100bucks on the KM2 you already have, is money well spent.
In the meantime, anytime I'm on the road around a truck with KM2 during the winter, I make sure I give that guy a wide berth. 1 slick spot and those will put any truck sideways quickly, btdt.
HTH and my .02
Scott J
94 FZJ80 Supercharged - Blizzack DMZ1 mounted
Back to the OP, siping will help transform the KM2's IME/O, into a very capable winter tire. IIRC, the authorized siping outlets at Discount Tire charge 15-20per tire, and on the KM2, it's a deal at twice that. When I had it done, I went from finding the KM2 downright dangerous (on road) winter tires, to very good winter tires with the addition of siping. And, they did everything the KM2's are known to do well, went I went back the next summer, to doing rocks with my old 4R. I found very little chunking that I could attribute to the sipes.
All that said, there are a lot of better winter tires that will outperform the KM2, even siped. But if you already own the KM2, and Santa isn't dropping a set of Hakka Vatiiva or Blizzack DMV1 in your stocking, under 100bucks on the KM2 you already have, is money well spent.
In the meantime, anytime I'm on the road around a truck with KM2 during the winter, I make sure I give that guy a wide berth. 1 slick spot and those will put any truck sideways quickly, btdt.
HTH and my .02
Scott J
94 FZJ80 Supercharged - Blizzack DMZ1 mounted
I have siped all my tires and (MT and AT) and think it really does improve the performance. With that said my last MTs (Les Swchwab Mt Cats) that were siped were great in the snow/ice/slush/rain..... but when summertime came and started playing the rocks they chunked very easy. May have been just that particular tire.
