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So??? Anyone tried this yet? My shop has done one on an 06 tacoma. It was a custom job as STS parts are great, but not offered for this vehicle. I spent a week or so driving the truck. It has stock gears, a 6" lift kit, 35s & the drivability is insane! No lag... good improvements through the whole power band. We used a Garrett hybrid GT30 that was designed for use in a rally car with a intake restrictor. No muffler, no intercooler It was just a bit too agressive sounding under boost. Intake piping was routed through the bed against the cab into a removable steel doghouse. This allowed the filter to breathe cold air while being protected from his quads and kept the filter from being bashed. The snorkel is easily attached and extends over the cab.

There are alot of good and bad qualities of both underhood and remote mount turbo systems. Im on the fence about which is better.
I commend all of those who have PIONEERED forced induction 80s!:beer: You guys are the hardcores that bring me to this site every night! All the supercharged rigs, home jobs, and the few with Safari kits, You guys kick **s! To all the "core" players on this site that know the facts. Thanks! I've been inspired... Now, if I can figure out the intake routing from my remote mount turbo. Well I'll have pictures soon. Pulling the motor for a headgasket and address my oil consumption problem tomorrow. :cheers:
 
Subscribed.. I like the idea of the remote mount turbo on an 80, and look forward to seeing it. You get around the biggest hurdle with putting a turbo on an 80--trying to find or build an exhaust manifold.

There's a lot of room up where the spare tire was. Also, there's a lot of room next to the frame to route the intake piping back to the engine. I'd also wonder about thermal shock when taking a dip. I guess you'd get something similar with a regular front mount turbo in really deep water.

Another possibility is two cheap junkyard turbos from some 80's 4 cylinder turbo. You'd have to build two exhaust manifolds but it shouldn't be any harder than 1 big manifold. Would two manifolds have less problems with thermal expansion? I don't know if it would end up any cheaper than a single new turbo like Dusty did, esp if 1 or both of the junkyard turbos died. Water/methanol injection (Boost Cooler, or similar) instead of an intercooler is what I'm going to at least consider if I ever make it that far down my list...
 
I'm picking up my tacked together manifold on Thursday. It will hopefully fit the head and I need to position the flanges for the turbo and waste gate for final build.

Right now it's a blank check project. My fabricator couldn't guess what the price would be and I just committed to whatever it costs.

Definitely the second costliest piece in the build next to the turbo.
 
There was turboed 3fe that someone just finished the other day in 60s tech. Worth a peek.
 
No turning back now, the motor will be on the ground after I can get a few hours of sleep. Studied the underside for all possibilities of intake routing, I think I'm more confused now than when I started. Thats what I get for working all day then starting a big project! I keep going back to integrating a Safari snorkel. I just didn't want to mount the turbo where the spare is. I would really like to keep the intake tract somewhat simple. The plan is to run a single high flow cat before the turbo, even though it won't pass the visual here i CA. It won't stink at stoplights (my Sti smells like an old Chevelle with the catless downpipe). Any ideas on the intake routing??? Im going to install the turbo about where the factory muffler is. Thanks in advance, Andy-
 
Those "Blank Check" projects are fun. I think I will be spending more than I had planned too. It hurts already.:crybaby: At least you have made the commitment!
 
lowtideride said:
There was turboed 3fe that someone just finished the other day in 60s tech. Worth a peek.
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yap with a custom manifold ..

I just mark to T3/T4 gonna be a nice convinaction for turbine/compresor sized. .48 for the turbine sould be good and .53 at most for the compresor, coz you don't goinna run a huge amount of boost ..

Keep in mind bigger turbo not always better .. in your case bigger turbo ( compresor side ) tu run 5 - 6 PSI means pretty nice turbo lag ..
 
from my background working with superchargers, the closer you have the cmpressor to the intake manifold the better. you want to keep the compressed air as efficient as possible and with lots of bends and long intake ducting you lose this. I think a turbo set up at the collector pipe on the exhaust would probably be a better location. then you can also protect it easier and shield it more appropriately.

but what to do about fuel management?
 
ls2gto said:
Another possibility is two cheap junkyard turbos from some 80's 4 cylinder turbo. You'd have to build two exhaust manifolds but it shouldn't be any harder than 1 big manifold. Would two manifolds have less problems with thermal expansion? I don't know if it would end up any cheaper than a single new turbo like Dusty did, esp if 1 or both of the junkyard turbos died. Water/methanol injection (Boost Cooler, or similar) instead of an intercooler is what I'm going to at least consider if I ever make it that far down my list...
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sizing the twin turbos, especially from junkyard offerings, is tricky. you don't want them to spool together.

also, since you own a 93 you already have dual downpipes and dual exhaust right back to behind the cats, and conceivably you could do a cut and turn on the stock exhaust manifold... it is shame the manifold can't be turned upside down like on the diesel B motors.
 
Installed a remote mount turbo GT28rs on a 04 Civic Si & it had a bit of lag. The car made no torque in stock form & the turbo had to go all the way at the rear. I would rather have installed it in the front of the vehicle because the charge pipe was smaller than I would have liked. Space was the biggest issue with this one.
The Taco on the other hand had NO lag & the legnth of the piping was probably equal to the internal volume of an intercooler & pipes. I have a Link ECU Turbo Link. It's an additional injector driver. At least that's what I had planned on running until I saw everyone else having good results with the stock fuel system.
 
PLEASE!!!! THIS WOULD BE ALOT CHEAPER THAN INSTALLING A VORTECH IN MY 80:frown:...

Would luv a vortech but can handle the 10k bill.....:frown::frown:

Besides... It looks like you might be able to get through the smog if your turbo is hidden.... LOL
 
Smog. Huh. California is tough. Even if our cars blow clean, we still have to know someone.
 
MLX450- Yes, good call. The spare tire location is the best place. I looked at it for hours on the hoist. So long my head hurt... I wanted to mount it where the muffler was, but it will be less cramped at the rear. The long charge pipe is great for the intercooling effect. I don't want the air intake to go all the way to the front though. I think this will be my biggest hurdle. I have a 4" turbo inlet & want a sealed air cleaner assembly like this. http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm going up to a snorkel. I just don't know about the way it will mount to the side of the body. (left side). Anyone have a good idea? I'd really like it to look nice.
 
It would probably be easiest to run it up to the front. There's got to be room for exhaust, intake, compressed intake, and a couple oil lines along the frame rails. Wouldn't be the best for performance to have an intake that long, but these aren't drag cars.

Could cut a hole in the side of your rig (and weld in a fuel filler from another vehicle or something similar), and run the intake to the side, and put some kind of screen over it (like a speaker grille), but that seems like a lot of work. Wouldn't want to run the intake into the inside of the vehicle due to noise. Would be tacky to run it through the interior to the roof and put a scoop there.

How often do you go through water up to the top of where your spare tire is? Water would be in the front of your vehicle at your feet before it got up to the floor pan in the rear, wouldn't it? I think the floor pan is quite a bit higher in the rear. Seems like if you mounted it up high, right close to your floor pan in the rear, it would be high enough. Could even make a sheet metal box around it that would only take in air within an inch or so of the bottom of the floor pan.

I wouldn't want to shock that turbo with water anyway. Can't be good for it to change temperature that fast.
 
Im afraid the turbo will eventually get really wet. That has always been a big concern. It won't happen that often though. I just don't want a super long intake. I like the box idea & the floor is much higher at the rear. After looking at the rear jack & tools area, I could go through the floor behind the cover & out the side. I can't seem to find any molded plastic tubes that fit the part. I need to call K&N and see if they have anything from another vehicle. Check this out http://www.kandn.com/images/m/57-1511-2.jpg Almost, but angles are funky.
 
Well, I have been working 60 hours a week & have been pluggin away every night after since the 4th of July. I have had a friend and co-worker helping with the project. We had the new rings gapped a bit more anticipating boost. Otherwise the motor was a "stock" rebuild. I'm going to be running the Maf in a blow through configuration. I don't know if anyone here has tried this here on MUD. The stock manifolds have been retained & exhaust no longer goes to the outside of the frame as this is where my boost charge pipe will go. Probably should have built a y pipe, but it was too easy to use a pre-made piece from magnaflow. I haven't had time to post pics, but here's a few. I hijacked the red valve cover from MSGRUNT I think. Damn Honda roots... More pics soon.:)
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I bought a Supra MAF for testing and it was covered with crap. As I understand it it's a blow through and I'd be concerned about PVC gases contaminating it. No real experience other than that used MAF.

BTW: if you don't buy a star and post another pic those will disappear unless you link them from another source.
 
I had to remove the weight from the t-case to run the 3" exhaust. A Vibrant single cat was used http://vibrantperformance.com/catal..._1111&osCsid=b5d8e1d5da7bbfc742b83f719a613d0e I hope it will light off. It had to go further back than I wanted. Just as expected mandrels were cut & pasted as necessary to clear the rear components. This has been pretty "fun". Our tubing bender will only bend 2.5" so I even sectioned the 2.25" charge pipe from mandrels. I should also mention that I just learned how to weld 2 days ago. I am having fun building the charge pipe, but left the exhaust to my friend. Pics soon. :grinpimp:-Andy
 
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