Isuzu Trooper windshield swap??

[Ebike toter]

Hi all.. neighbor recently sold a 1988 Isuzu Trooper & I parked my LJ78 next to it & the front windshield looks identical (actually a lot of parts look identical) .
at around $240 installed ...
I've got a cracked windshield that needs replacing...
Cheers

 

[ca18sean]

The correct Toyota windshield is available in the US market... why not use it? I would be extremely surprised if an Isuzu windshield fit a 70 series.

 

[Ebike toter]

Ok.. but I'm always looking for compatible parts.. in central California I've checked the local toyota dealers.. no luck.. not even with part #.. oh well
just bought front calipers for my lj78.. 1988 4runner Direct replacement..

 

[JuanJ]

The correct Toyota windshield is available in the US market... why not use it? I would be extremely surprised if an Isuzu windshield fit a 70 series.

Hello,

x2.

If the Isuzu windshield somehow fits, it may not be water tight. Keep in mind that the windshield frame on a 70 Series is especially vulnerable to rust. Furthermore, water may leak into the dash and find its way to the wiring harness.






Juan

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Ok.. but I'm always looking for compatible parts.. in central California I've checked the local toyota dealers.. no luck.. not even with part #.. oh well
just bought front calipers for my lj78.. 1988 4runner Direct replacement..

The calipers are a direct replacement because the light duty LJ7x series shares much of it's parts with the Hilux/4Runner/Surf chassis. It's no coincidence the calipers fit, they are the same part.

The windshield on the other hand would be an amazing feat. I can hardly imagine the width, height, thickness, corner radius and shape are in fact 100% identical. Prove us wrong

 

[onemanarmy]

Ok.. but I'm always looking for compatible parts.. in central California I've checked the local toyota dealers.. no luck.. not even with part #.. oh well
just bought front calipers for my lj78.. 1988 4runner Direct replacement..

you understand that Toyota makes both the Land Cruiser and the 4 runner, right? Did you check overseas suppliers? Far more 70 series across the pond.

Did you measure the Trooper windshield? Every dimension? Before making this thread?

There are far fewer first gen Troopers on the road compared to most everything else. I wouldn't depend on any 30 year old Isuzu part as a secondary supply.

Land Cruisers cost money to operate and keep up....if you are that bad off and looking to cut corners...maybe the 70 series isn't for you.

 

[Ebike toter]

Wow.. you guys aren't easy... sometimes problem solving requires "thinking outside the box" .. but I can see that brand loyalty runs high here.. so sorry .. don't mean to stroke against the fur...
Can anyone give me a list of what not to post?? cuz getting responses like I just received really makes me think..

 

[coldtaco]

i like your "thinking" outside of the box. But logically I don't see a Trooper windshield being a direct replacement, unless Toyota and Isuzu had developed both rigs together and where manufactured in the same plant? I don't know if any manufacturers did that kind of thing that far back.
I ended up putting T100 V6 front brake calipers on mine when I did the front axle service, it made a noticeable difference in stopping power.

 

[GTSSportCoupe]

The calipers are a direct replacement because the light duty LJ7x series shares much or it's parts with the Hilux/4Runner/Surf chassis. It's no coincidence the calipers fit, they are the same part.

On an aside, the front caliper is the same on the heavy duty HZJ7x too....

So are the front inner axles shafts, birfields, knuckles, spindles, hubs, bearings, rotors, etc. I have a bit of a beef when people compare the Prado 70 to the Hilux/4Runner/Surf when it actually shares more parts with the Heavy Duty 70 (or has unique parts). I've owned both and the Surf is a whole different ball of wax (besides the motor). The Prado is more landcruiser than most people give it credit for. Motor sucks yes...but the rest is pretty good and tough.

 

[renago]

I can't remember were , but in one spare part website , there was a list of which car was sharing the single part.
in some cases even Nissan was listed .
ref. LJ 70 , and HDJ 70 series , I must disagree , axel shaft , hus knuckles are different .
how ever many other parts are shared .

 

[GTSSportCoupe]

ref. LJ 70 , and HDJ 70 series , I must disagree , axel shaft , hus knuckles are different .
how ever many other parts are shared .

I'm talking 1990+ LJ7x. I just checked and the parts are the same. If you don't believe me, here they are. Copy/Paste them in here to see they cross to both HZJ7x and LJ7x: ToyoDIY.com There are way more parts shared too, but I just listed the major ones to prove this point.

SHAFT, FRONT AXLE, INNER LH

43412-60080

SHAFT, FRONT AXLE, INNER RH

43411-60050

SHAFT SUB-ASSY, FRONT AXLE OUTER

43405-60040

KNUCKLE, STEERING, RH

43211-60100

KNUCKLE, STEERING, LH

43212-60100

SPINDLE SUB-ASSY, STEERING KNUCKLE

43490-60030

CYLINDER ASSY, DISC BRAKE, LH

47750-35080

CYLINDER ASSY, FRONT DISC BRAKE, RH

47730-35080

 

[SNLC]

I'm talking 1990+ LJ7x. I just checked and the parts are the same. If you don't believe me, here they are. Copy/Paste them in here to see they cross to both HZJ7x and LJ7x: ToyoDIY.com There are way more parts shared too, but I just listed the major ones to prove this point.

SHAFT, FRONT AXLE, INNER LH

43412-60080

SHAFT, FRONT AXLE, INNER RH

43411-60050

SHAFT SUB-ASSY, FRONT AXLE OUTER

43405-60040

KNUCKLE, STEERING, RH

43211-60100

KNUCKLE, STEERING, LH

43212-60100

SPINDLE SUB-ASSY, STEERING KNUCKLE

43490-60030

CYLINDER ASSY, DISC BRAKE, LH

47750-35080

CYLINDER ASSY, FRONT DISC BRAKE, RH

47730-35080

Which means 4-runner calipers work on anything with a HP front axle.

I sure remember getting my balls busted when I posted a thread about this very thing.


I think people should cut the OP some slack. At least he had the two trucks side by side which is why he came here to ask. How many people commenting have compared the two trucks side by side??


From my experience, there is a lot of info on this forum that isn’t correct.

Cheers

 

[TonyP]

It's really not outside the realm of possibility.
Windshields aren't, necessarily, 100% vehicle specific.

 

[Waikato Willy]

I once used a sheet of polycarb pulled from a lathe safety screen for a windscreen in a little work runabout till the glue failed one day and flew off on the highway

 

[FJBen]

We used to tease the 80 series guys about having a front mini-truck axle.

 

[SNLC]

We used to tease the 80 series guys about having a front mini-truck axle.

Haha funny haha not funny??


It is far stronger than the 70-series HP axle. Everything from the knuckle ball out is just better. When I did the conversion recently it reminded me how much I like the 80 outers vs the other stuff. 10x faster and easier to shim up.



Cheers

 

[GTSSportCoupe]

Best way to deal with the OP's initial question might be to look for aftermarket windshield manufacturer part numbers. See if the aftermarket part number crosses over between the Trooper and Landcruiser..... I'd say 99% chance not, but you never know!!

 

[GTSSportCoupe]

I sure remember getting my balls busted when I posted a thread about this very thing.

One of the sources of confusion is the 1989 and earlier Bundera actually did use the Hilux front axle parts. So those parts DO cross to the Hilux. When Toyota designed the long wheel base Prado/Landcruiser II for 1990, a lot of things got upgraded. The upgrades carried across to the short wheel base models at that point as well.

 

[SNLC]

One of the sources of confusion is the 1989 and earlier Bundera actually did use the Hilux front axle parts. So those parts DO cross to the Hilux. When Toyota designed the long wheel base Prado/Landcruiser II for 1990, a lot of things got upgraded. The upgrades carried across to the short wheel base models at that point as well.

Either way, both are available at just about any parts store in N. America. And with your core, are very cheap compared to OEM.

Doesn’t matter to me now since the truck I am working on is running 80 calipers but it is good info to log in the brains files for later or next time.

Cheers

 

[cruiseroutfit]

On an aside, the front caliper is the same on the heavy duty HZJ7x too....

Some but not all light duty and HD stuff swaps. If it has the vented "wide" rotor it's the same, if it has the narrow non-vented rotor, different caliper.

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Speaking of 7x series in general, some inner axle shafts can be the same, not always. For example 9.5" axles (which were never on light duty stuff) have a wider diffs and shorter short shafts than an 8" setup. Steering/Suspension stuff is beefier on the HD. While you're right the Prado 7x holistically shares more parts with the HD 7x, it's overall robustness of parts is better compared to the Hilux, Surf, PU, etc as the diffs, steering, brakes, engine, trans are the factors imo more so than the actual overlap of part numbers.