Is owning a Pig a sign of aging?

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@navydivedoc and @greenbeast Dr. I've interacted with both of you guys 😉 1 in person and 1 in lengthy conversations on the phone!! You are both Outstanding individuals and must be Major assets to you Proffesions! You are both down to earth and understanding of people from all walks of life and can interact with all on intellectual and personal ,and layman terms ❤! My Neurosurgeon was the same! A very well spoken Dr. From South Africa named Thabele Leslie Mazwi, my Hero. The man that saved my life 😥🙂. He worked at MGH in Boston but has since moved to Seattle. He could speak with anyone no matter what level of intelligence and treated all with the same respect. He is a Great man like both of you 👏 ❤, you all deserve the utmost respect from all of us 🇺🇸. We appreciate your service and the service of all who are on the front line protecting us and our Freedom. You don't need a FJ55 to be a Brethren of this group!! You just need the desire. ❤ @navydivedoc and Dr.John AKA @greenbeast
 
I'm late to this party, as I haven't been on the forum for a bit. But, man, this thread really resonates with me. Both as a grumpy(ish) guy turning 50 this year, a Doc trying to stay sane in the field, and as a once and almost certainly future Pig owner.

I didn't grow up with cruisers. My Dad was a die hard Chevy man. I grew up with 63-67 corvettes, 55-57 Chevy trucks, and a handful of muscle cars as a backdrop to my childhood. Dad is a Suburban Man as a DD, still to this day. Land Cruisers were "Jap Junk" and there were none to be found in my household. :rolleyes:

I did pick up this truck recently during my cruiser purge. Mainly so my Dad would have one to use in his waning years. We actually have 3 of them in his barn, but he'll never get around to restoring them. Too much Yankee pride in him for me to give it to him. But, my house in Maine is right next to his, so he gets to "watch" it for me and exercise it. My brother catches him out in the wild pretty frequently

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I grew to be a Toyota fan over the years. Tacomas, 4runners, and yes Siennas. I still maintain that a minivan is the most useful appliance on the planet, but that's a topic for another thread. I'm only mildly ashamed that I no longer own a land cruiser, but DO still have a Sienna o_O

@wngrog said there is no greater "Cruiser spaz" than Navydivedoc. There is truth there. I stumbled on Mud at some point a few years ago, maybe 2017 or so. I was 17 years into my 20 in the Navy. You could say I was over it by then, with 3 years left until I could retire. Patients were always a priority, and I never once "phoned it in" when it came to them. But, the Navy and I had started to diverge in what we thought was appropriate around that time. Again, thoughts for another thread. But, that sense of being in a holding pattern is what I think got me headed down the LC pathway. I dove deep into @wngrog patina land. Project patina got me inspired, and I ended up finding my own patina rig. 1967, yosemite yellow, 1 owner FJ40 with perfect balanced Patina. I was hooked. I bought it and promptly stored it. Then, a neighbor had a pristine FJ80 1991 sitting in his yard. I used to see it daily walking the dogs. I had a standing agreement with my wife that if ever one was up for sale, it might randomly land in our driveway. It did. I moved that along after I discovered what a 3FE and an auto meant in an 80. Then a 100 series with 285k miles that my neighbors thought was a new Lexus...it was that good. Another 100. A 1961 FJ40 from @JackA. God's own unicorn FJ45 from @ClemsonCruiser. "Chuck", the west coast Pig I owned but never saw. And then the local 68 Pig that I picked up, now in @Pigeaten's sty.

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Amidst all of this, I found myself on the forum every day. Checking in on the various threads, enjoying all of the input from everyone. I looked forward to this world that wasn't the Navy, wasn't medicine, but was a community of like minded and excellent people. That's hard to find in this crazy world, and I really appreciated it. Also in the midst of all of this, I retired from the Navy. moved back north, and started over. One thing about the military is it does force a midlife shift that most people don't have to go through.

Then I realized I had far too many cruisers, didn't really have the time that I planned originally to work on them, and didn't have space. When the barn to house them breached $300k in build costs, I stepped back and gave it some thought. Did I need more space for old trucks, or less old trucks? The answer, it seemed, was less old trucks. And the great cruiser purge began. And there is a huge part of me that has breathed a sigh of relief. My modern vehicles start everytime, don't leave puddles of oil on my garage floor, and don't require constant tinkering. I have shelf space from the parts leaving my life. In truth, in many ways, life is better without them.

What I didn't appreciate, and really the point of this long rant, is how much I missed this community. And, in particular, how much I missed this sub forum. I had fun in the 40 and 45 subsection, but this crazy corner of mud was my favorite. Something about this crew of misfits, caring for the oddest and objectively biggest PITA subset of cruisers, just fits. Aside from @bobm who is sort of a neighbor I haven't met any of you. Yet, I spent a lot of time with you during my transition to civilian life. In the time of Covid, I "interacted"more on mud than in the real world.

In the end, I guess I just want to say thanks to all of you fine gentlemen down here. The comaraderie here is real, even if it is from a distance. I think the great Cruiser Purge of 21 was probably 1 too many. Though my Pig was the "worst" of my cruisers from a mechanical and condition standpoint, it's the one I miss the most. That's not just due to oddball iron.

So, Thanks to all of you. For welcoming me, and more importantly for supporting each other. It's a tough world right now for everyone. A community is not just where you live. :cheers:
Well stated amigo. You hit the nail on the head. Between work and family duties, these threads help sustain me. The camaraderie, humor and the selfless desire to help one another seems to be a Land Cruiser thing. I feel very fortunate to be a part of it. Cheers!!
 
Dad is a Suburban Man as a DD, still to this day. Land Cruisers were "Jap Junk" and there were none to be found in my household. :rolleyes:
My Grandfather on my Mom’s side fought in the South Pacific during WWII. He only ever drove GM or Jeep vehicles - hated anything Japanese. Had a bumper sticker on one of his trucks that said - “I’d rather eat sh*t than drive a Jap pickup”. Started driving the 55 pretty heavily around the time of his cancer treatment and eventual passing. Pretty sure he never knew what it was.
 
On the other hand, my late father-in-law, a B-29 pilot in the Pacific in WWII with many missions from Saipan to Japan, happily bought my future wife a Datsun 1600 roadster while we were in college. His wife wasn’t quite so forgiving of the folks who tried to shoot him down.
 
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now days most of the "Jap Crap" is made in America. In a lot cases more of those cars are actually made in the states. Whereas some of the big 3 have parts from Mexico or Canada. Even some chevy engines are made in *gasp* China. Not sure if at the time it was just a smear campaign on foreign vehicles or if it was an issue of skilled labor. It defiantly woke up American makers and consumers in 80s and we are all the better for it.

I don't know what my point is, but I'll add this. A lot of pollution is caused when building a new car. In the age of reduce, reuse, recycle, it only makes sense to keep these old dinosaurs working and possibly take a vehicle made of 50% plastic off of the assembly line. The "Jap" cars are already here so why not use em?
 
I’ve read some books about how Americans felt about Japanese pre, during and post WWII. I’m shocked they were ever able to get a toe in the US market. Especially where they did, on the west coast.
 
now days most of the "Jap Crap" is made in America. In a lot cases more of those cars are actually made in the states. Whereas some of the big 3 have parts from Mexico or Canada. Even some chevy engines are made in *gasp* China. Not sure if at the time it was just a smear campaign on foreign vehicles or if it was an issue of skilled labor. It defiantly woke up American makers and consumers in 80s and we are all the better for it.

I don't know what my point is, but I'll add this. A lot of pollution is caused when building a new car. In the age of reduce, reuse, recycle, it only makes sense to keep these old dinosaurs working and possibly take a vehicle made of 50% plastic off of the assembly line. The "Jap" cars are already here so why not use em?
I agree completely. Even my Dad has come around in his later years. He will admit to the quality of Toyota, and definitely acknowledges that ALL cars are so much better due to the Japanese wake-up provided to the big 3, and the european companies, during the 80s.
 
My dad used to close the doors on cars like it was a 54 Chevy or a FJ55. Hence the reason the doors on the only Japanese car he bought (Suburu, tried talking him out of it!) Had bad hinges in about 6 months 💪. You opened the door and it dropped about 1/4 inch 😳😂🤣. Is this ****ing thing closed, make sure that doors closed 😯😳😂🤣🤣🤣.
 
hmm, I assume you mean to slam the door closed. We had the opposite on my Dads '49 Chevy. The window tracks didn't have a lot of support when down and you would break the glass if you closed it too fast. I didnt have to worry about breaking the glass too often as my brother and I usually had to ride in the bed.
 
Ah, the good ole days when you could ride in the bed of a truck. Took my kids and their friends out for a ride in the 45 this past weekend and had them climb in the bed. I was completely expecting to end up in the slammer! :oops::oops::oops:
That's child abuse these days. Ha!
 
Driving thru San Francisco at night and had to put on every sweater and jacket we owned. We would lay down and try to find the area where the least amount of wind hit you. On warmer drives we would bring a few tennis balls with us and try to throw the ball as high as you could without the wind over the cab taking it away from us. We usually didn't have any balls left for the return drive home.
 
Definitely need to credit the Japanese, especially Toyota, and some European makes for forcing improvements to U.S. quality control and manufacturing processes. I used to delight in asking my critical friends which car was more 'Merican...our HHR made in Mexico or the successor BMW made in South Carolina.
 
I am as red-blooded American as the next but I do have a few anecdotes about skilled labor.

The power company here is SDG&E and they are my main client. They were constructing a large powerline and were looking for a vendor for the lattice towers. One was from Pittsburgh and the other was from Italy, of all places. Pittsburgh was still using cardboard templates to do knockout and drill holes. Contractors had complained before that they did not bolt together all that easily. Especially when you are using helicopters to construct them. Italy was using CNC and laser layouts and had a pretty good reputation for constructability. Also, cheaper.

The other story is closer to home, but may be a small sample size. My first pair of redwing loggers were an insulated boot and at the time only the ones that had it were made in China. They were good for several years and I had no issues. Went thru a few laces and got them resoled once. They were warm in the desert and I decided get another pair without the insulation. I got the same 9in steel toe but made in USA. They were about $80 more I think. Anyways in a lot less time I have had to send them back to Redwing for bad stitching on both sides. the sole coming off the toes, the heal coming loose. Tongue stitching was coming loose. It was all repaired for free, but very inconvenient.

I am sure there are plenty of stories stating the opposite. I just wonder how much is true or perception when we get all rah rah rah sometimes.
 
This is sign of aging, daughter getting senior pics today. She wanted to use our old Ford. Figure Bob would get a kick out of it.

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Wow, that is awesome!!!

I took the boy to his first Homecoming dance last night. Him and his buddies all went stag. He wanted to have a get-together here, but then he was worried we wouldn't be able to get everyone to the dance. I put the 3rd row seating in the 100 and wa-la! I took all 6 boys to the dance last night.

Good times...
 
Awesome story. I'd love to get my wife down to Ouray... but she has a fear of being on the edge of a very step slope so I'm not sure I can make it happen. Took my 55 to SAS and it was great - would love to take my 200 at some point.
SAS sounds like fun!!!
 
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