Ironman Lift

[Bigshone]

I saw on camel4x4 that the ironman springs were 120~ for front and same for the rear. Was that per spring or for two springs.

projectcruiser - the price is a pair.

I'm sure Eli will chime in, but per the info on his web site it says "'two (2) in a box" I would say it's per pair, but it would be nice to confirm it. I've thinking about a couple pairs as well.

Edit....sent PM to Eli to confirm info

 

[projectcruiser]

I'm sure Eli will chime in, but per the info on his web site it says "'two (2) in a box" I would say it's per pair, but it would be nice to confirm it. I've thinking about a couple pairs as well.

Edit....sent PM to Eli to confirm info

I also sent Eli a PM, its two in a box, and I just ordered my springs from him!

 

[SUMMIT CRUISERS]

Ordered my 2" Suspension kit yesterday and it shipped out today. Great job, Eli.

 

[BROMO95]

Iron Man 2" spring

Just ordered my springs, they are ;
TOYO24C for front
TOYO25D for rear
#3524 steering damper

Once again thank very much Eli, for great service, 10% discount and free shipping

 

[kbahus]

I ordered some springs to level out my ome setup. Thanks for the great deal!

 

[arndog123]

I wish I would've waited to buy my lifts from him. That's a pretty good deal.

 

[Rusty]

I wish I would've waited to buy my lifts from him. That's a pretty good deal.

I agree, it does seem like a good deal, but the difference is in what's missing. FOR and Slee's kits offer other parts though I'm not sure that you need them. Slee's 4" kit for instance offers the following additional parts:

-steering damper
-double carden shaft
-adjustable upper control arms
-breather extensions
-e-brake cable drop bracket
-front and rear bump stop blocks

If you buy those parts in addition to the Ironman lift then you're going to spend the difference anyway, question is do you actually need them and I can't seem to get a concrete answer from anyone. Other than the breather extensions, those parts look significant to me though I know that many who have installed FOR's 3.5-4" kit have not needed the DC shaft (I know, some people do, some don't).

I got the chance to see Motorcoach123's FOR kit in his 80 the other day and I must admit that I liked the look of it. I hadn't considered FOR's kit before because I've kind of been left with the impression that the FOR kit has a fantastic ride but doesn't handle the combined extra weight of tons of "add ons", bumpers, sliders roof rack, winch etc.

The other impression that I've been given is that Slee's kit does handle extra weight really well. So who really knows what the "best deal" is, it will always depend on who you talk to I guess, until there is a side by side comparison done of all the different suspension kits out there.

 

[Snacktime]

I don't feel I could have gotten a better deal for coils! That's without the sale price too.

 

[Bluetribal]

Ordered my 2" Suspension kit yesterday and it shipped out today. Great job, Eli.

What castor bushings did you go with. I don't trust the adjustable ones holding up over time. I think I am going to go with the 2° offset castor bushings.

ADJUSTABLE OFFSET CASTER BUSHES

• Three way adjustable.
• High density injection molded Polyurethane.
• Easier to fit.

Ironman Adjustable Offset caster Bushes are made from a high density injection molded Polyurethane and laser cut notched Steel Tube. Easy to fit and adjustable to 3 different settings, Standard, 2.5 Degree & 3.5 Degree.

Adjustment is achieved by the rotation position of the inner steel tube.

The offset in the bushes will tilt the differential (positive) back toward manufacturers specification thus greatly improved handling and feel. Highly recommended for raised height 4x4`s up to 75mm lift to permanently cure vehicle wonder.

OFFSET CASTER BUSHES

2° Caster Correction Bushes are available for selected vehicles. Produced from high density injection molded polyurethane.
Highly recommended for raised height 4x4`s up to 75mm lift to permanently cure vehicle wonder.

 

[landtank]

blutribal, I don't know where you are getting your info on offset bushings from but a 2* bushing at best will correct for a 1.5"lift. A 75mm or 3"lift will take quite a bit more correction.

 

[kbahus]

Landtank, would your castor plates provide too much correction on a 2" lift or cause tie rod interference?

 

[Bluetribal]

blutribal, I don't know where you are getting your info on offset bushings from but a 2* bushing at best will correct for a 1.5"lift. A 75mm or 3"lift will take quite a bit more correction.

From what information I have gathered I know that every vehicle is different. And I think you even wrote about your concern with these adjustible bushings lasting.
I am looking at the 2" lift although I did read that the 2" IM lift gave a forum member almost 3" due to very saggy stock suspension. Not sure if he had a LX or if my suspension is as old and saggy as his was.

 

[Cancruiser]

Sorry, excuse the newbie question:
What is a "stink bug" looks??

 

[arndog123]

Sorry, excuse the newbie question:
What is a "stink bug" looks??

It's when the back end sits higher than the front.

 

[SUUEEET]

Ordered today

Ordered mine today. Will post pics when finished. Just ordered the B springs and shocks with 2* casters.

 

[Bluetribal]

Ordered mine today. Will post pics when finished. Just ordered the B springs and shocks with 2* casters.

So the 110# additional weight springs. Do you have a rear bumper or plan to get one?

I have a Hanna bumper with a spare tire swing out, a Co2 bottle and plan to build a single cargo drawer. Wondering if I should step up to the C springs for 242# additonal weight?

 

[landtank]

From what information I have gathered I know that every vehicle is different. .

Ride height is ride height and the trucks aren't so different. What is different is what you, the consumer, put on them and in them that alters the ride height.

Some load them up and others don't. That provides a different ride height even if the same springs are used and that difference equates to different caster needs.

Now caster will change about 1.75* per 1 inch change in ride height. Do the math, a 2* bushing will not get the job done with a 2"lift. You will need a 3* bushing at least.

Lastly, you don't calculate change in ride height from worn out saggy springs. You have to use a theoretical height as if it rolled out of the factory with a fresh suspension. For that I use 20.5" as measured from the center of the hub to the bottom of the flare.

my .02

 

[Bluetribal]

OK, thanks for the info. So what is the point of the 2° bushings if they don't even work for a 2" lift?

Guess I will have to decide if I want to use the IM adjustable bushings or others like Slees.

 

[SUMMIT CRUISERS]

Bluetribal, I'm planning on the washer mod found here. Looks good and saves me bucks for more Shiner Bocks.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/397440-cant-find-caster-washer-mod-link-any-pictures.html

 

[landtank]

I personally would go with Slee's 3* bushings. His new offering is black in color and look to be more flexible over the previous blue ones.

Just don't throw away the stock bushings. You might have thoughts of going higher and they might come in handy if you do.