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Dealership went over my 280k 100 during an oil change this week and found a small amount of play in the rack. I had told them I occasionally heard a pop when turning and on bumps so they were looking for "problems". There's no leak but they've recommended replacing the rack&pinion assembly stating it's a zero tolerance for movement part. I looked at it when it was on the the lift and the mech showed me how the wheels had a small amount of side to side movement . With the high mileage it seems reasonable the R&P is worn. Debating replacing it now or waiting awhile. Also, are there other bushing which should be changed out at the same time. Looks like outer tie rod ends aren't included in the new assembly, reuse the old ones or replace? Thanks for all the info. S1
With Julian's assistance I dug deeper to find the drivers side inner tie rod is toast. Only my drivers wheel has movement at 3 and 9, the passenger wheel has no play. I'd pull the rack boots back and watch the inner when moving the wheels to see if an inner is beat before I'd go through the hassle/expense of a rack, even at 280.
I haven't actually done it yet, but looks doable. PN 45503-69015 is pretty expensive from toyo, so I bought a Moog with same part number and made in Japan.Camino70 - Dealer shop has told me that the inner tie rods are not considered a replaceable part, maybe this is just a Toyota practice. Do the inner tie rods come as part of the rack and pinion assembly... Some may question why I use the dealer shop (small town) but I've had good results with them over the years much better than with the independent mechanics.
Thanks all who contributed to this thread, I don't usually follow write ups but several points here made this job a lot more straight forward. @ENGINE er Thanks for the initial write up and giving me a name to take in vain as knuckles were busted. @5Cruiser Thanks for the engine lift idea, that is the real key. @rohitash Thanks for letting me know the sucker would come out with the steering shaft attached, saved my day.
The plate is a safety mechanism and acts as a washer to keep tension on the bolt. It doesn't seal cabin from the firewall. There is another seal that is accessed inside for that.
When I did my rack job on my 4Runner I just ended up replacing the lines. If they're that big of a hassle cut/break the off and replace on the new rack. It sounds like you already damaged/bent the fitting, so I wouldn't waste more time on it.I began rack replacement last night after work, everything went extremely smooth had the entire rack unbolted and free within an hour except for the back hard line (I spent another 2 hours cussing it, beating on it, spraying with penetrating oil, trying a 4 foot cheaper pipe, that ended up bending, and all the other genius ideas) . Ive never felt something so frozen in my entire life. and of course all you can get on it is an open ended wrench. I went and bought a line wrench hoping that would solve my problem. Nope. I have soaked it in penetrating oil for almost 12 hours now with re applications throughout and have the torch standing by. Not too excited about using a torch in a small area below the engine covered in power steering fluid and penetrating oil.
after this next attempt, im at the point of cutting the line and pulling the thing out and just having a new line made. I'm open to any other ideas.
The rear line was by far the most frustrating/irritating/new cuss word creating part of the whole rack replacement. I did apply some heat via a MAPP torch with a concentrated flame in short spurts. IIRC, the rear line is the low pressure return and should have a rubber hose spring clamped to the steel line at the passenger side frame rail. If you have a flex head ratcheting wrench, you can remove the rubber hose and slide the ratcheting end down the length of the steel hose to rear line fitting for a bit more control and leverage.I began rack replacement last night after work, everything went extremely smooth had the entire rack unbolted and free within an hour except for the back hard line (I spent another 2 hours cussing it, beating on it, spraying with penetrating oil, trying a 4 foot cheaper pipe, that ended up bending, and all the other genius ideas) . Ive never felt something so frozen in my entire life. and of course all you can get on it is an open ended wrench. I went and bought a line wrench hoping that would solve my problem. Nope. I have soaked it in penetrating oil for almost 12 hours now with re applications throughout and have the torch standing by. Not too excited about using a torch in a small area below the engine covered in power steering fluid and penetrating oil.
after this next attempt, im at the point of cutting the line and pulling the thing out and just having a new line made. I'm open to any other ideas.