Help a teacher save money on brake repair bill!

[plarsen111]

Hi,

Almost $3700 on master cylinder and replacement of pump of 1999 LX 470!!! Details further below (mechanic emailed me the specifics).

Here is the short of it. Mechanic says, "Master Cylinder is leaking onto electronic components and pump. I am having trouble buying the Master Cylinder and Pump and other parts separately. So, from what I can see on my computer, I need to buy them OEM all at the same time." (I am paraphrasing here).

I don't blame the mechanic. It can be difficult to see/tell what you are getting.

SO HERE IS MY QUESTION: Does anyone know where I can get the required part for much less money???

Your help is sooo much appreciated.



DETAILS EMAILED FROM MECHANIC:

1999 Lexus LX 470 4.7 L 4663 CC V8 DOHC 32 Valve


$258.75 MASTER CYLINDER Remove & Replace M

$103.50 MISC. LABOR CHARGES

CUSTOMER BELIEVES IT NEEDS A NEW MASTER CYLINDER

WHEN CUSTOMER BOUGHT VEHICLE, HE WAS MADE AWARE OF BRAKE LEAK, ALARM SYSTEM WILL BEEP AND BRAKE LIGHT COMES ON

CUSTOMER WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO JUST REPAIR THE PART INSTEAD OF HAVING TO ORDER A NEW ONE.


INSPECTION FOUND THE FOLLOWING


FOLLOWING DTC PRESENT IN MODUAL

C1252 HYDRO BOOST PUMP MOTOR FAULT

C1256 ACCUMULATOR PRESSURE LOW


PEFROMED COMPLEATE CIRCUIT TEST ON UNIT BASED ON PRESSURE READING ASSEMBLY HAS FAILED, MASTER CYLINDER LEAKS AND IS LEAKING ONTO THE BRAKE BOOSTER PUMP, PUMP IS FAILING.


CUSTOMER REQUESTED REPLACMENT OF MASTER CYLINDER, THIS WILL NOT ADDRESS ISSUES WITH THE PUMP AND MODULE, AND LOW PRESSURE


SYSTEM WILL REQUIRE COMPLEATE REPLACMENT TO ENSURE SAFE OPPERATION OF VEHICAL


QUESTIONS CALL ALAN 509-374-5783

$2,999.90 ABS MODULATER KIT

INCLUDES

FULL ASSEMBALLY

MASTER CYLINDER

RESEVOIR

BOOSTER WITH ACCUMULATOR

RELATED HARDWARE

$14.00 GASKET

Note: M - Labor Database, Copyright, Mitchell International, All Rights Reserved

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$362.25 Labor

$3,013.90 Parts

$0.00 Sublet

$15.53 Shop Supplies / EPA

$0.00 Charges

$291.68 Sales Tax (Tax @ $3,391.68 * 8.6000%)

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$3,683.36 Repair Total

 

[Trunk Monkey]

Search is amazing.

Aftermarket brake master

 

[plarsen111]

Search is amazing.

Aftermarket brake master

So that leads to a thread and on that thread I don't even see the link. Not sure what to do with that.

 

[Hornd]

Since your a teacher....and your profession sways my response:

Get a booster from a Junkyard.
Cruiseryard might be a good place to start.

 

[plarsen111]

Mechanic says this:

$2,999.90 ABS MODULATER KIT

INCLUDES

FULL ASSEMBALLY

MASTER CYLINDER

RESEVOIR

BOOSTER WITH ACCUMULATOR

RELATED HARDWARE

$14.00 GASKET


Is the link below the entire thing?

1999-2002 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER & LEXUS LX470 ABS pump power brake booster | eBay

 

[planomateo]

Interesting that the labor is only 10% of the parts bill.

That link above talks about a rebuild, perhaps you can find someone in the area that will rebuild it for you (assuming that's the problem) for cheaper than $900 (price in your eBay link, notice he also wants yours in return). I've never messed with one of these, so can't really give any input.

Edit -> DIY thread here (incredibly detailed) Master Cylinder Rebuild - DIY

 

[plarsen111]

Thanks planomateo. I have actually seen a link to rebuild this part. If I had balls, I would try it myself. But I don't even know how to bleed the brakes! lol.

Anyone else? Is this the same part I referenced above the same as referenced by mechanic?

 

[plarsen111]

This is the guy with balls...

Master Cylinder Rebuild - DIY

 

[jLB]

So that leads to a thread and on that thread I don't even see the link. Not sure what to do with that.

F-

Link points to this thread:
Aftermarket brake master

Which leads to this page:
Toyota / Lexus

Which leads to this product:
1998 to 2000 Lexus LX470 Electric Master Cylinder

 

[plarsen111]

Thanks jLB. I just called my mechanic and he looked at that link.

Unfortunately, he said that is only one part.

He also needs, "Lower pump unit on the bottom of the master cylinder and the accumulator on the side."

If anyone can send this info I would honestly kick you back some money if I buy the parts and my mechanic accepts them. I am that desperate. I have no desire to spend $3000 for three parts I could have gotten for $1500.

Thank you!

Phil

 

[2001LC]

You've four options of which have been stated above. But first get a second opinion from a series 100 specialist shop or gearhead near you.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

30 seconds on Google with the part number and I found it new OEM for $2,050.

 

[plarsen111]

Link? And does it include the lower pump unit on the bottom of the master cylinder and the accumulator on the side?

Again, this is what my mechanic is asking for. And while I admit to knowing next to nothing about this, I am just trying to provide it for him.

 

[Sandroad]

Based on what you've written so far, you need both the master cylinder and the booster/accumulator replaced and you should not drive the truck until that is done. Here is link to the part from Camelback Toyota, but other dealers can supply it too.

Toyota Parts - Camelback Toyota Parts - Genuine OEM Parts - Free Shipping

Edit: I used a different part number (4705060043) than the post above. Need to check the number.

 

[bctlex]

You've four options of which have been stated above. But first get a second opinion from a series 100 specialist shop or gearhead near you.

I agree with @2001LC here. If I am in OP's shoes, I would get a second opinion. Also, I am curious what is the story behind this? Did you lose all braking power or just noticing that you have a leak?

 

[plarsen111]

Not driving the vehicle.

We bought it knowing it had a leak. But we got it for $4,000 and it is in great condition otherwise.

 

[bctlex]

Not driving the vehicle. We bought it knowing it had a leak. But we got it for $4,000 and it is in great condition otherwise.

So did the previous owner tells you that the master cylinder has a leak?

Personally I would make sure and confirm there is actually a leak first (I mean I would want to see this leak with brake fluid dripping/seeping out of the master cylinder), and getting a second opinion before spending a few grand to fix it. I recall someone bought a cheap LC with a leak, and it turns out to be a leak in the brake line, which is a lot cheaper solution.

I am not saying that your mechanic can not be trusted, but I always confirm and verify the problem before spending my money, especially for work that cost this much.

Someone with more expertise will chime in here.

 

[plarsen111]

It is pretty much confirmed as a leak. I had another mechanic (backyard mechanic...but good) look at it before I am having my other mechanic verify the same thing.

And aside from that, he is not making that much in labor. Just a freakin expensive part.

Thank you though.

 

[plarsen111]

Backyard mechanic said he will not do the work. Too much liability with brakes, in his opinion.

 

[OG 91 LC]

You bought a truck with one of the funkiest issues on these trucks. We are all aware of the failure on the parts that you are needing. The price on the entire unit is shocking and that doesn't include labor. Get a second or third opinion. Just don't rush it and get stuck paying a hefty bill. Make sure the person that does the job knows what they are doing. I would say save some $$$ and do it yourself, but it seems like a daunting task if you don't wrench much.

Good luck. The price is GAGNARLY.