Has anyone here gone to a LC250 from a 5th Gen 4Runner?

[Zill]

I feel the non-hybrid 6th gen 4runner may be a better base to build on rather than the LC. At least for those owners willing to accept a slow vehicle.

Not with the fact that they don’t have frame mounted bump stops on the new 6G 4Runner non-hybrids. Integrated bump stops in the shocks are asking for a major fail (which is what the new taco is experiencing).

Edit - it looks like even the hybrid 4 runners won’t get frame mounted bump stops? It’s hard to tell since these rigs are not out yet.

 

[LCOceans]

I did not know there would be a non-hybrid 6th Gen 4Runner. I thought all going to this hybrid platform?

 

[Zill]

I did not know there would be a non-hybrid 6th Gen 4Runner. I thought all going to this hybrid platform?

I believe you will have the option of a regular turbo 4 on the lower end models or hybrid turbo 4 on the upper end models (just like the taco).

 

[MaxJr]

Not with the fact that they don’t have frame mounted bump stops on the new 6G 4Runner non-hybrids. Integrated bump stops in the shocks are asking for a major fail (which is what the new taco is experiencing).

Edit - it looks like even the hybrid 4 runners won’t get frame mounted bump stops? It’s hard to tell since these rigs are not out yet.

You are in a 250 forum. No proper bump stops here.

I did not know there would be a non-hybrid 6th Gen 4Runner. I thought all going to this hybrid platform?

I also assume the 6th gen 4runner will mirror the 2024 Taco.

 

[Zill]

You are in a 250 forum. No proper bump stops here.




I also assume the 6th gen 4runner will mirror the 2024 Taco.

What? The 250 has frame mounted bump stops?

 

[rexington14]

I went a test drove one today just to reacquaint myself and man that V6 is such a dog. I still may end up getting another one, only because it would eventually end up at my place in CO. Feel like parking a 200 or something else nicer up there for long periods of time without being driven would be a waste.

The worst thing about the 5th gen 4R especially in recent years towards the end of the run is the price paid for what you get (which is primarily the value of expected reliability). It's a lot of money for an old outdated vehicle.

 

[Azimuth1]

Not with the fact that they don’t have frame mounted bump stops on the new 6G 4Runner non-hybrids. Integrated bump stops in the shocks are asking for a major fail (which is what the new taco is experiencing).

I agree it's a bummer for the bump stops. However, as far as I'm aware, other manufacturers rarely use them either. Is it really a big deal out in the wild (when they're properly built anyway - the Tacoma is not built in Japan after all, and they were using a welded aluminum top for it as opposed to cast steel/iron)?

 

[Zill]

I agree it's a bummer for the bump stops. However, as far as I'm aware, other manufacturers rarely use them either. Is it really a big deal out in the wild (when they're properly built anyway - the Tacoma is not built in Japan after all, and they were using a welded aluminum top for it as opposed to cast steel/iron)?

It does when the shocks are breaking off because they’re using integrated pot metal bump stops in the shocks themselves. Multiple reports of Tacomas breaking in the field due to this design oversight, and good luck jerry rigging something if it does fail.

 

[Azimuth1]

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It does when the shocks are breaking off because they’re using integrated pot metal bump stops in the shocks themselves. Multiple reports of Tacomas breaking in the field due to this design oversight, and good luck jerry rigging something if it does fail.

I agree that the Tacoma shock top is terrible. However if/when they fix them to use cast iron instead, would it still be a deal breaker? My hope is that the 4Runner delay will be used to address some of the issues in the Tacoma.

 

[Patassa]

It does when the shocks are breaking off because they’re using integrated pot metal bump stops in the shocks themselves. Multiple reports of Tacomas breaking in the field due to this design oversight, and good luck jerry rigging something if it does fail.

Really astonishing design or part? failure from the videos I've seen on youtube so far.

 

[crikeymike]

What? The 250 has frame mounted bump stops?

Yes they do. Here is a pretty handy video showing all the stock features.

 

[CCinSD]

I just wanted to drop in and say I’ve had a 2015 4runner TE then 2017 200 series, and now 250. Let me known if you still needed some feedback.

 

[Funner]

I just wanted to drop in and say I’ve had a 2015 4runner TE then 2017 200 series, and now 250. Let me known if you still needed some feedback.

Of course, let’s have the scoop.

 

[CCinSD]

Going off on the OPs question, 5th gen 4Runner to a 250…

My 4Runner was a trail edition/trd off road w/ KDSS. Both vehicles are serving the same purpose.
Purpose: daily driver, family hauler
Off-road: light off road trails

Both are great vehicles. I have a thing for Japanese built Toyotas/Lexus. You already know about the physical differences, price, reliability, etc. I didn’t plan on buying the first model year 250 but it was more of a necessity. I would of waited a few years down the road and get the refresh.

Right off the bat, I don’t like the powertrain on the 250. I barely have over 1,000 miles on it. Not sure if it’s something I’ll get used to but that how I feel about it now. The power is there but the way it transitions between battery and ICE needs to be refined. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a deal breaker. The only other hybrid I can compare this to is my wife’s RX450h.

Why is the 250 better? I love the tech, Apple car play, drivers aid (dynamic cruise control and lane centering) is a must for me especially for daily driving. My 250 is the Land Cruiser trim without the premium package. No front cross traffic alert and driver monitoring. Efficiency is a lot better, I’m running KO3 275/70/18 on my 250 which averages 21 mpg. The 4Runner had KO2 265/70/18 which was averaging in the high teens. These would be the main factors why I would go from a 4Runner to a 250.

Why didn’t I opt for the premium package you might ask… #1 I wanted my center console space. Everything else in that package I could care less about. If it was possible to pick some options a la carte, I would probably get the digital rear view mirror, JBL sound system, and leather seats.

How does the 200 series come into play? It’s a totally different thing, the flagship, the true Land Cruiser. The 200 series was the weekend family hauler/road trip rig. I sold it a few years ago mainly for profit. I would love to buy another down the road - 2021 HE w/ 3rd row. I don’t regret selling it but I miss driving that thing. There’s something different about it, maybe the V8, the size, the presence. If you know, you know. Others will just see it as a Toyota SUV which I love. Stealth wealth

 

[Funner]

Right off the bat, I don’t like the powertrain on the 250. I barely have over 1,000 miles on it. Not sure if it’s something I’ll get used to but that how I feel about it now. The power is there but the way it transitions between battery and ICE needs to be refined. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a deal breaker. The only other hybrid I can compare this to is my wife’s RX450h.

This concerns me. I expected they had this sorted with all the highlander hybrids, I suspect it’s the turbo that is the issue causing the system to hunt between ICE and hybrid when the turbo starts spooling up. I was dead set on getting a 200, then COVID and cars and economics all went bananas and thankfully I went with 5th gen that I was then able to unload for a few extra coins and wait it out. I was really disappointed with the 5 gen.

 

[CCinSD]

This concerns me. I expected they had this sorted with all the highlander hybrids, I suspect it’s the turbo that is the issue causing the system to hunt between ICE and hybrid when the turbo starts spooling up. I was dead set on getting a 200, then COVID and cars and economics all went bananas and thankfully I went with 5th gen that I was then able to unload for a few extra coins and wait it out. I was really disappointed with the 5 gen.

I forgot to mention, this is coming from a stop and low speed scenarios.

 

[Zill]

I forgot to mention, this is coming from a stop and low speed scenarios.

Pro tip - throw the car in tow haul mode to get rid of this issue