gregnash
Anal Retentive Analyst
As some of you may already know I am looking to sell BeBe my 60 in the next years time. Circumstances in our life have changed that really we could use something with a bit more towing capacity than the wife's 2011 4Runner and really we don't want to sell that and replace with something else as we will have it paid off shortly. On top of that, we have no need for a 3rd vehicle, as normally during the warmer months I ride my bike to work (lucky enough to only live like 3 miles from my office).
Anyways, the plan is to upgrade to a 100 Series Land Cruiser (maybe LX470) so I need to figure out what my truck is worth. I have a number in my head due to all the work and stuff that I have put into the truck but don't know how realistic it is.
Here is a link to my build thread, I have documented pretty much EVERYTHING on there. (photo album of everything)
To put it into some perspective so that those who are not familiar with my build thread can give a bit of thought and conjecture.
The good:
- Less than 200k (originally purchase with 146k-ish, speedo cable broken and so last three years the PO I purchased from had the truck no mileage change over. However, he was an older gentleman that said he mainly used to run down to his cabin in the middle of Utah about once a month, so conceivably less than 5k miles a year, definitely less than 10k/yr).
- No accidents noted of on Carfax, no indications I could find of accidents as I have gone through working on the truck
- Head gasket done about 2yrs ago with clean-up of the head, new valve guides, cleaned up valves, etc.
- New waterpump at time of headgasket
- New thermostat at time of headgasket
- New radiator (replaced with brass core Champion) about 6 months after headgasket due to leak in top
- New Toyota OEM radiator cap installed at time of radiator replacement
- DieHard Platinum Group 34 battery installed in 2013 (still running strong, with bluetooth volt meter for tracking)
- Various new hoses as time has required
- New JimC rebuilt and desmogged carb (thing runs beautifully and still have old stock carb)
- JimC idler pulley installed (smog pump was seized when I purchased)
- New belts, rotor, cap, plugs and wires all done in 2014
- FourRunner upgraded battery cable kit installed
- 120amp fuse installed for direct connect between battery and alternator
- New denso reman'd alternator installed in 2014 with new denso voltage regulator
- SLCFJ62 jumper box with extra capacity installed to convert headlights to H4 style bulbs
- Cibie headlight lenses installed with PIAA 55/60 bulbs
- AALs added to all corners and springs re-arched by spring shop to add approximately 2" of lift
- New SkyJacker 9000 series shocks installed with MAF greaseable shackles and pins, with Energy Suspension bushings
- Hella 500FF lights installed on front bumper with yellow applique film (gives old school look I think)
- Most all chrome has been blacked out
- Custom PT Cruiser seats installed with butt warmers
- Smittybuilt console replacing stock
- Wits' End glove box insert installed
- Wits' End gentex mirror arm with Gentex mirror with homelink and autodim from 2007 Prius
- Toyota OEM Aussie (EURO) mirrors installed
- Cruiser Corps Dash Cap installed
- Knuckles rebuilt in 2014 with kit from Georg with added Marlin inner seal
- All tierods replaced in 2016 with 555 TRE kit from Georg
- Brake Master Cylinder and Booster replaced in 2013 (PO thought booster was done, but ended up being MC) with Toyota OEM
- Carb fan grounded as sensor is missing but has been rewired to work (was dead when purchased)
- Fan clutch replaced with new Toyota OEM unit, fan shroud split mod done at time
- Toyota power steering pump installed (old was leaking), pulled from a salvage 60
- All toyota OEM glass except windshield
- Joying 7" touch screen head unit installed (works great with installed GPS and is CarPlay/Android Auto compatible) with Rockford Fosgate speakers all around (rear panels built to accept 6x9s and covered with marine vinyl to match interior)
- Toyota OEM Inclinometer (not currently installed)
- Toyota OEM grab bar installed (from Australia)
- 4 new Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT 31x10.5x15 with 1 Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx (8/32 left) installed on spare
- Entire truck was repainted last year with heavy duty "farm implement" paint
- Lots of rust replaced with fresh metal, doors replaced with good doors from donor trucks
- Custom exhaust done with 2" to 2 1/2" conversion at down pipe from manifold, new cat installed along with Thrush turbo style muffler
- E-brake freed up and working properly now after years of having bells frozen
- 2" hitch installed, no wiring present
The Bad:
- Entire truck was repainted last year with heavy duty "farm implement" paint (still needs cut and buff to get rid of orange peel and few spots for touch-up)
- Truck has been completely desmogged (so only certain buyers will be able to register)
- Oil pan needs replacement as drain plug leaks (have oilpan gasket need to get new pan and plug)
- Front heater blows warmish air, occasionally will blow hot (have spare from good working truck but need to backflush current)
- Oil leak from flywheel/transmission area (not bad, assuming it is rear main)
- Seal between t-case and tranny leaking, MAF router line installed to flow between the two
- Rear pinion seal starting to get "wet" looking (will probably need replacement soon).
- Upholstery on doors is not great and coming apart (mainly vinyl at top)
- Rear seat has tear in vinyl about 3" long, otherwise solid
- Headliner is dirty with few small holes and tears here and there
- Body has various dents still present after paint (was not meant to be a show queen so wasn't overly worried and did not have plans at that time to EVER sell)
- Windshield has a-typical pillar leak (Believe it is seal behind fender and not A-Pillar issue)
- A/C blows cool air, never looked into as I don't care for A/C so could need a recharge or system could be bad
- Carpet not in the best shape (PO was smoker), rear cargo area is worst
So with all that said, I was hoping to get somewhere between $6k-$8k for the truck. I have put a lot of work into her but I know that my own valuation is not overly accurate, the question is whether I would be able to get that. I plan on attempting to take care of the oil pan and paint by spring of next year so those things can come off the list but want to stop investing larger amounts into her unless it would potentially add to the resale value. Main premise behind the price is I know that should cover at least half of the cost of a decent 100 series (looking for 2000-2007, less then 280k on the clock, preferably without NAV installed and AHC, good service record history and no accidents) so that would leave me minimal that I would either have to save up or finance. Color is not a huge thing for me of the 100 so anything will do as long as it is now black (already have one black car).
So, MUD family ... WHAT SAY YOU!!
Anyways, the plan is to upgrade to a 100 Series Land Cruiser (maybe LX470) so I need to figure out what my truck is worth. I have a number in my head due to all the work and stuff that I have put into the truck but don't know how realistic it is.
Here is a link to my build thread, I have documented pretty much EVERYTHING on there. (photo album of everything)
To put it into some perspective so that those who are not familiar with my build thread can give a bit of thought and conjecture.
The good:
- Less than 200k (originally purchase with 146k-ish, speedo cable broken and so last three years the PO I purchased from had the truck no mileage change over. However, he was an older gentleman that said he mainly used to run down to his cabin in the middle of Utah about once a month, so conceivably less than 5k miles a year, definitely less than 10k/yr).
- No accidents noted of on Carfax, no indications I could find of accidents as I have gone through working on the truck
- Head gasket done about 2yrs ago with clean-up of the head, new valve guides, cleaned up valves, etc.
- New waterpump at time of headgasket
- New thermostat at time of headgasket
- New radiator (replaced with brass core Champion) about 6 months after headgasket due to leak in top
- New Toyota OEM radiator cap installed at time of radiator replacement
- DieHard Platinum Group 34 battery installed in 2013 (still running strong, with bluetooth volt meter for tracking)
- Various new hoses as time has required
- New JimC rebuilt and desmogged carb (thing runs beautifully and still have old stock carb)
- JimC idler pulley installed (smog pump was seized when I purchased)
- New belts, rotor, cap, plugs and wires all done in 2014
- FourRunner upgraded battery cable kit installed
- 120amp fuse installed for direct connect between battery and alternator
- New denso reman'd alternator installed in 2014 with new denso voltage regulator
- SLCFJ62 jumper box with extra capacity installed to convert headlights to H4 style bulbs
- Cibie headlight lenses installed with PIAA 55/60 bulbs
- AALs added to all corners and springs re-arched by spring shop to add approximately 2" of lift
- New SkyJacker 9000 series shocks installed with MAF greaseable shackles and pins, with Energy Suspension bushings
- Hella 500FF lights installed on front bumper with yellow applique film (gives old school look I think)
- Most all chrome has been blacked out
- Custom PT Cruiser seats installed with butt warmers
- Smittybuilt console replacing stock
- Wits' End glove box insert installed
- Wits' End gentex mirror arm with Gentex mirror with homelink and autodim from 2007 Prius
- Toyota OEM Aussie (EURO) mirrors installed
- Cruiser Corps Dash Cap installed
- Knuckles rebuilt in 2014 with kit from Georg with added Marlin inner seal
- All tierods replaced in 2016 with 555 TRE kit from Georg
- Brake Master Cylinder and Booster replaced in 2013 (PO thought booster was done, but ended up being MC) with Toyota OEM
- Carb fan grounded as sensor is missing but has been rewired to work (was dead when purchased)
- Fan clutch replaced with new Toyota OEM unit, fan shroud split mod done at time
- Toyota power steering pump installed (old was leaking), pulled from a salvage 60
- All toyota OEM glass except windshield
- Joying 7" touch screen head unit installed (works great with installed GPS and is CarPlay/Android Auto compatible) with Rockford Fosgate speakers all around (rear panels built to accept 6x9s and covered with marine vinyl to match interior)
- Toyota OEM Inclinometer (not currently installed)
- Toyota OEM grab bar installed (from Australia)
- 4 new Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT 31x10.5x15 with 1 Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx (8/32 left) installed on spare
- Entire truck was repainted last year with heavy duty "farm implement" paint
- Lots of rust replaced with fresh metal, doors replaced with good doors from donor trucks
- Custom exhaust done with 2" to 2 1/2" conversion at down pipe from manifold, new cat installed along with Thrush turbo style muffler
- E-brake freed up and working properly now after years of having bells frozen
- 2" hitch installed, no wiring present
The Bad:
- Entire truck was repainted last year with heavy duty "farm implement" paint (still needs cut and buff to get rid of orange peel and few spots for touch-up)
- Truck has been completely desmogged (so only certain buyers will be able to register)
- Oil pan needs replacement as drain plug leaks (have oilpan gasket need to get new pan and plug)
- Front heater blows warmish air, occasionally will blow hot (have spare from good working truck but need to backflush current)
- Oil leak from flywheel/transmission area (not bad, assuming it is rear main)
- Seal between t-case and tranny leaking, MAF router line installed to flow between the two
- Rear pinion seal starting to get "wet" looking (will probably need replacement soon).
- Upholstery on doors is not great and coming apart (mainly vinyl at top)
- Rear seat has tear in vinyl about 3" long, otherwise solid
- Headliner is dirty with few small holes and tears here and there
- Body has various dents still present after paint (was not meant to be a show queen so wasn't overly worried and did not have plans at that time to EVER sell)
- Windshield has a-typical pillar leak (Believe it is seal behind fender and not A-Pillar issue)
- A/C blows cool air, never looked into as I don't care for A/C so could need a recharge or system could be bad
- Carpet not in the best shape (PO was smoker), rear cargo area is worst
So with all that said, I was hoping to get somewhere between $6k-$8k for the truck. I have put a lot of work into her but I know that my own valuation is not overly accurate, the question is whether I would be able to get that. I plan on attempting to take care of the oil pan and paint by spring of next year so those things can come off the list but want to stop investing larger amounts into her unless it would potentially add to the resale value. Main premise behind the price is I know that should cover at least half of the cost of a decent 100 series (looking for 2000-2007, less then 280k on the clock, preferably without NAV installed and AHC, good service record history and no accidents) so that would leave me minimal that I would either have to save up or finance. Color is not a huge thing for me of the 100 so anything will do as long as it is now black (already have one black car).
So, MUD family ... WHAT SAY YOU!!