Got burned by Wits End (1 Viewer)

[Unimogguy]

I still can’t believe he hasn’t been criminally prosecuted by a local/state DA??? Or by another state DA who several people were defrauded from.

How is this not multiple felonies???

It’s total has to easily over $120k (I counted 20 people who’d sent him $6k for a turbo), mail fraud, credit card fraud, cyber fraud, etc???

I personally would find it funny (aka karmic) if someone took every single part Wits End ever made copied them and then sold them under a new brand. Taking payment and delivering the product.

Obviously the demand for the parts is there…I digress.

I know…I know this goes against what Ghandi said.

 

[brockdeck]

People need to stop recommending Wits End on this forum. Free advertising for him to go and pull this s*** on yet another unsuspecting person.

I know he isn't a "Vendor" anymore, but I chuckle when I see people link his site on the tech forums. Although they probably don't know any better.

 

[ravenplague]

When did this happen and how did you "reach out to him"?

This happened about 2 months ago. I reached out to him through his website, personal email, and through Venmo.

 

[NicksFJ40]

Case number: 6:23-bk-61701 - Joseph Romero - Oregon Bankruptcy Court

Case number: 6:23-bk-61701 - Joseph Romero - Oregon Bankruptcy Court

www.inforuptcy.com

 

[NeverFinis]

Joey representing himself...not a good sign of a healthy business

 

[surfpig]

Case number: 6:23-bk-61701 - Joseph Romero - Oregon Bankruptcy Court

Case number: 6:23-bk-61701 - Joseph Romero - Oregon Bankruptcy Court

www.inforuptcy.com

OH.

 

[NicksFJ40]

Found it on one of the very numerous “Wits Ends screwed me” post.

Would be nice if a legitimate business bought the rights to produce those items…but the money went directly to those who were ripped off.

 

[Feldrian]

Found it on one of the very numerous “Wits Ends screwed me” post.

Would be nice if a legitimate business bought the rights to produce those items…but the money went directly to those who were ripped off.

Regardless of what happens to WE, the IP is an asset and I really hope that another vendor can pick it up and continue making and marketing the products. What happens to those funds is up to the courts and I'm certainly not a lawyer.

 

[NicksFJ40]

I agree, there are numerous items I have wanted to purchase from WE. Just didn’t want to get burned.

 

[yonah]

It appears his webpage is down for 'maintenance'...

I ordered a small, relatively inexpensive, part from him last summer. Rolled the dice, I suppose. The order was delayed and delayed. I inquired three times ~one month apart in frequency and Joey would always have a great excuse (supplier issue, issue with anodizer, etc.). My last few messages have gone unanswered and I've filed a fraud complaint with my credit card company.

Sad to see it, but there's a lot more to running a business than simply making cool pieces of kit.

 

[Devils Paw 80]

It appears his webpage is down for 'maintenance'...

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Someone else posted that elsewhere a couple days ago. It seems that the thought gathering process is still in the works.

 

[Broski]

It appears his webpage is down for 'maintenance'...

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Most likely a court ordered shut down.

 

[Overlanderson]

damn I'm late to this thread... I made it here after trying to pull up the web page...

In the past I have ordered many things from Joey and never had any issues. If the item was delayed, I would reach out and he would respond within a couple of days. I put an order in last year for the Rear Quarter Panel Mount (his most popular item). After seeing the downed site and his court case I'm really hoping I still get it!

 

[Mudder]

I would suggest doing a charge back if you can. He’s going through forced bankruptcy.

 

[Overlanderson]

do we know what the outcome of the case is? will he be able to continue running his business?

 

[Mudder]

It was converted to chapter 11 under the condition of a list of requirements being met, which His Joeyness failed to do.
It has since been converted back to a chapter seven and a new trustee assigned.

He was given every chance.

I’m basing it off of this quote from @PDXDave67 , that no he won’t be continuing business. He shouldn’t have had his website up for a while now according to the other thread as well. Wits end is done and your only way to get money is through a charge back or maybe get lucky with his assets being liquidated (unlikely since he screwed over numerous people with the turbo pre orders). I’m not a lawyer though or involved with the case enough to know 110%.

 

[Francis K]

damn I'm late to this thread... I made it here after trying to pull up the web page...

In the past I have ordered many things from Joey and never had any issues. If the item was delayed, I would reach out and he would respond within a couple of days. I put an order in last year for the Rear Quarter Panel Mount (his most popular item). After seeing the downed site and his court case I'm really hoping I still get it!

Oh my sweet summer child

 

[Broski]

I met a nice young man at Cruise Moab that purchased a turbo kit payed in full and never received it.
He actually still had hopes of receiving it.

 

[Kabanstva]

I met a nice young man at Cruise Moab that purchased a turbo kit payed in full and never received it.
He actually still had hopes of receiving it.

Someone should replicate the turbo kit and bring it back to the market. Sounds like it was actually good.

 

[Feldrian]

Someone should replicate the turbo kit and bring it back to the market. Sounds like it was actually good.

@Cruiser Corps has.

Someone should replicate the turbo kit and bring it back to the market. Sounds like it was actually good.

@Cruisers and Co has a solution: Cruisers and Company 80 Series Turbo - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/cruisers-and-company-80-series-turbo.1330870/