This^^^^. Those valve pushrod covers are notorious for leaking oil, especially towards the rear of the engine near the exhaust down pipe.
Gimme a 60s 3B Engine Swap
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I don’t think you guys understand! Don’t you see the green stain on the engine block below the head!!!!! Head gasket!!!????!? I already know the push rod cover is leaking.
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Then pull the head !! Put a new gasket and check the precups ! engines out, easy peasy...
As others have said clean that puppy up so it shines and then rule out all the east stuff. Assume the head gasket is fine until you’ve eliminated the possibility of a leak from everywhere else.
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Lol I have done head gaskets on other Toyota engines. This one looks the hardest, I’m serious.
I don't remember anything particularly hard about the job (its been a few years). I seem to recall a 22RE being harder just because of all the fuel injection stuff. Do you have a shop manual? If you don't you should get one. You probably could down load off mud - seems to me I've seen it offered but not sure if it still is available and where.
Like pistonpete should be relatively easy and then new gasket and check precups ( I would just change them). Or alternatively, install everything get it running and change head in truck - still not that hard - but its a heavy little sucker!
Like pistonpete should be relatively easy and then new gasket and check precups ( I would just change them). Or alternatively, install everything get it running and change head in truck - still not that hard - but its a heavy little sucker!
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I did a head gasket on a Toyota 3.0. It was a lot of work. But from what I have heard his 3B head gasket is a bigger job. I might just have to leave it. As far as shop recourses go, I have access to all data, but last time I checked, I couldn’t find anything on the Toyota diesels. Today, on my break I will talk to one of my teachers who is a red seal mechanic.
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Swap is going well. I don’t Have much time, but I am extremely persistent, I have made excellent progress lately.
I’m going to try and update the thread more.
I’m going to try and update the thread more.
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Okay! I’m trying to get my a$$ in gear here, I have been grinding the LC project lately, and I am making good progress! And believe it or not, everything has been pretty smooth.
After I replaced most gaskets on my 3B and got it running, () I started to focus on the FJ. I began by pulling the transmission out, link here: FJ62 Transmission Removal - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/fj62-transmission-removal.1300834/
Anyways, I got this genius idea to take the rebuilt 62 38mm case, and put it on the H55F- as the H55F T-case had not worked when I bought the truck due to a rusted shift lever.
I started to remove the T-Case, and to my complete uprise, every inch of the case looks rebuilt!! Bearings, thrust washers, O-ring, gears, and Idler shaft looked awesome. The PO of the truck had not memory of him having it rebuilt, so I guess he didn’t know.
Anyways, now I have 2 rebuilt units, I’m not sure what I’m going to do with the other one. I will try to keep this thread updated.
P.S I have learned so much from tearing this Case down. I love it.
After I replaced most gaskets on my 3B and got it running, () I started to focus on the FJ. I began by pulling the transmission out, link here: FJ62 Transmission Removal - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/fj62-transmission-removal.1300834/
Anyways, I got this genius idea to take the rebuilt 62 38mm case, and put it on the H55F- as the H55F T-case had not worked when I bought the truck due to a rusted shift lever.
I started to remove the T-Case, and to my complete uprise, every inch of the case looks rebuilt!! Bearings, thrust washers, O-ring, gears, and Idler shaft looked awesome. The PO of the truck had not memory of him having it rebuilt, so I guess he didn’t know.
Anyways, now I have 2 rebuilt units, I’m not sure what I’m going to do with the other one. I will try to keep this thread updated.
P.S I have learned so much from tearing this Case down. I love it.
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Figured I would update the thread.
I successfully swapped over the 38.mm idler shaft, T-Case, not a hard job, it’s just important that you place all of the thrust washers in place, and check the preload on the output bearing. While I was there I also took the top off of the transmission, and everything looks fine and feels smooth, other than a very slight growl in 5th gear…. Boo-hoo
After the transmission came out, the engine was an easily accomplished task, not a whole lot of work.
Upon the inspection of my 3FE it was clear that the engine had some serious engine oil leaks, it’s probably a good thing that I pulled it out.
Anyways, sold my transmission to a fellow member, and I have started the marvellous journey of doing all the wiring.
I have never done any wiring before, but I think I will be able to figure it out. I believe that the strategy with the 62, is the leave the original harness installed, and just make a mini harness, for EDIC and glow plugs.
Anyways, as of now, I have just labeled most of what I can, and removed both dashboards- this is extremely easy task to anybody who is wondering.
I will update in detail how The wiring goes!
I successfully swapped over the 38.mm idler shaft, T-Case, not a hard job, it’s just important that you place all of the thrust washers in place, and check the preload on the output bearing. While I was there I also took the top off of the transmission, and everything looks fine and feels smooth, other than a very slight growl in 5th gear…. Boo-hoo
After the transmission came out, the engine was an easily accomplished task, not a whole lot of work.
Upon the inspection of my 3FE it was clear that the engine had some serious engine oil leaks, it’s probably a good thing that I pulled it out.
Anyways, sold my transmission to a fellow member, and I have started the marvellous journey of doing all the wiring.
I have never done any wiring before, but I think I will be able to figure it out. I believe that the strategy with the 62, is the leave the original harness installed, and just make a mini harness, for EDIC and glow plugs.
Anyways, as of now, I have just labeled most of what I can, and removed both dashboards- this is extremely easy task to anybody who is wondering.
I will update in detail how The wiring goes!
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Bought a new transmission, it only has 100,000KM.
I ordered a compression tester for the 3B, I may go and pickup a new engine depending on the numbers.
I ordered a compression tester for the 3B, I may go and pickup a new engine depending on the numbers.
nice, good job
head gasket on the 3b is super easy, especially with it out of the truck,
the problem is you WILL find things ie, a cracked head..... cracked precups are a 100% probability but the head being cracked is also highly likely ( mine was as are many )
this is the kind of thing you need to know before just chuckin an engine in and running it, you dont want to drop a precup, and they are a wear item like a timing belt.
i have 2 3b 70series, let me know if i can help
Radd cruisers is a good resource for us, fast shipping and they are knowledgeable and have much more than is listed on their site.
head gasket on the 3b is super easy, especially with it out of the truck,
the problem is you WILL find things ie, a cracked head..... cracked precups are a 100% probability but the head being cracked is also highly likely ( mine was as are many )
this is the kind of thing you need to know before just chuckin an engine in and running it, you dont want to drop a precup, and they are a wear item like a timing belt.
i have 2 3b 70series, let me know if i can help
Radd cruisers is a good resource for us, fast shipping and they are knowledgeable and have much more than is listed on their site.
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Yea John at Radd Cruisers is my #1 source.
Yes, I’m worried about having to replace the head.
My 3B runs well, check out my YouTube video I posted above. I actually suspect the compression numbers to be good. But This other engine I’m looking at only has 100,000 km, and it’s a 85’ model year.
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So,
Before I resumed my wiring job, I did some more work on the 3B.
I did a compression test, the numbers came out to be 400psi across the board COLD. After I knew my engine was good, I proceeded to install the new clutch and mate the transmission to the engine. I am trusting the work I have done; the new transmission feels great on the engine, very tight and no play on the output shaft.
Next, I resumed my wiring job.
I was freaking out about the task before me. But I had decided that I wasn’t going to swap the wiring harnesses because the 62 has too many power features - navigating it would be nearly impossible- the 60 & 62 have many differences.
The the new strategy is, take out EVERYTHING that i DON’T need. For example anything ECU related is cut & pulled out, as well as the fan cooler assembly (this is removed so the Glow plug timer can be installed). So now, the engine bay looks very clean, there are no other wires in it other than the lights, power intenna, windshield wiper, and brake booster idiot light.
My idea is I will then be able to plug in my diesel harness to the engine and Gauge cluster, but there are other issues that I will have to resolve with that. But I think it’s going to work.
I have now installed the glow plug timer, and one of the main relays.
I’m doing this mostly solo, and it’s not overly hard.
Before I resumed my wiring job, I did some more work on the 3B.
I did a compression test, the numbers came out to be 400psi across the board COLD. After I knew my engine was good, I proceeded to install the new clutch and mate the transmission to the engine. I am trusting the work I have done; the new transmission feels great on the engine, very tight and no play on the output shaft.
Next, I resumed my wiring job.
I was freaking out about the task before me. But I had decided that I wasn’t going to swap the wiring harnesses because the 62 has too many power features - navigating it would be nearly impossible- the 60 & 62 have many differences.
The the new strategy is, take out EVERYTHING that i DON’T need. For example anything ECU related is cut & pulled out, as well as the fan cooler assembly (this is removed so the Glow plug timer can be installed). So now, the engine bay looks very clean, there are no other wires in it other than the lights, power intenna, windshield wiper, and brake booster idiot light.
My idea is I will then be able to plug in my diesel harness to the engine and Gauge cluster, but there are other issues that I will have to resolve with that. But I think it’s going to work.
I have now installed the glow plug timer, and one of the main relays.
I’m doing this mostly solo, and it’s not overly hard.
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I mostly buttoned up my wiring!
Like I previously stated I made basically a simplified diesel harness. It includes all of the relays and the glow/edic wiring. The hard part is adding them into the fuse box- I have added most of the necessary wires but there are still more that I need to add or track down. - the whole assembly slides into the truck with the rest of the wires… I hope it works!
Now, I can’t test much until my engine is in, so I started welding in my motor mounts.
I started by measuring the distance of the motor mount to a bolt shared by both vehicles - one measured I cut the mounts off with my Makita zip wheel… pretty easy and doesn’t take much time to cut them off.
Hope the engine fits in okay. The transmission crossmember will be the hard part.
Also picked up a new 3B with only 100,000 km. - runs nice.
Like I previously stated I made basically a simplified diesel harness. It includes all of the relays and the glow/edic wiring. The hard part is adding them into the fuse box- I have added most of the necessary wires but there are still more that I need to add or track down. - the whole assembly slides into the truck with the rest of the wires… I hope it works!
Now, I can’t test much until my engine is in, so I started welding in my motor mounts.
I started by measuring the distance of the motor mount to a bolt shared by both vehicles - one measured I cut the mounts off with my Makita zip wheel… pretty easy and doesn’t take much time to cut them off.
Hope the engine fits in okay. The transmission crossmember will be the hard part.
Also picked up a new 3B with only 100,000 km. - runs nice.
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figure I’d update this thread. Lots of work has gone into the 62 that I haven’t documented. I wish I did.
Anyways, I’m currently installing a front differential locker. So far it’s been super easy - tomorrow I’m pulling the 3rd member.
Anyways, I’m currently installing a front differential locker. So far it’s been super easy - tomorrow I’m pulling the 3rd member.
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Alright Mudders, its time to get hopping and update this thread. I feel guilty that I haven't done a great job at documenting my FJ62 project, so please consider this my FJ62 revival.
Now, looks like we have left off on installing the new 3B engine - so I must admit, there were a lot of important events I couldn't even document in this exact thread, I was graduating high school, and applying for future college prospects so posting in great detail just wasn't an option... but, allow me to fill you in on some of the gaps....
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BONUS: MOAB!
Well, that about sums it up.
anyways, with that clear, lets get down to business. Incase you didn't know 17 year old kids don't typically know a whole lot of stuff about cars... or engine swaps in general. SO, needless to say despite my countless adventures since i have "completed this project" there is a lot of incomplete work... missing stuff, or things that were improperly installed, worn out parts etc.... this hasn't stopped me from driving this 62 all over B.C, and even a part of the USA but it has left me with a impending feeling of incompletion,
SO my idea is I'm going to finish this for once and for all! here is the list:
1. Dashboard Gauge cluster lighting - lights don't work
2. 4wd light
3. Fuel Gauge, and RPM gauge
4. Seat belt light
5. Radio
6. Wrap and seal entire wiring harness
7. both kickpanel covers (need to be covered)
8. All heating ducts need to be installed
9. carpet kit, and sound deadening
10. replace hatch, and paint tailgate
11. Starter motor brushes
Lots of work right?
(this is only the start of the list, but ill chip away at it)
Now, looks like we have left off on installing the new 3B engine - so I must admit, there were a lot of important events I couldn't even document in this exact thread, I was graduating high school, and applying for future college prospects so posting in great detail just wasn't an option... but, allow me to fill you in on some of the gaps....
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Hi, My FJ62 now has a H55F installed in it, I’m close to getting the truck running, however I need to mount the clutch pedal! Because the FJ62 wasn’t designed for a clutch, and doesn’t have the factory mount, how do you install the pedal? Do you just weld up a small plate to throw in there...
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Engine Crooked in Frame After Engine Swap?
Hi guys. I swapped in a 3B into my 62 today. The motor mounts were cut and welded in by me. The engine landed right where it should be, however it is VERY crooked. From what I have read on here, it’s normal. However, I want to be 100% sure it’s okay… does anybody know if this is...
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“ENGINE” fuse?
I’m swapping a 3B into my FJ62. The wiring aspect is getting the best of me. Does anybody know what the “ENGINE” fuse is? What is it for? Same thing for the fuse that says “POWER” I’m trying to wire in my BJ60 harness into my FJ62 ignition - it’s difficult because I’m not sure where...
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I Have Questions for all 3B Owners
Hello 3B owners, As some of you may know, I am swapping a 3B diesel into my FJ62. It has come to my attention through experience and anecdotes that the engine is very slow, and I am no stranger to the fact. However, I am more talking about the specifics of daily driving a 3B powered rig, and...
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FJ62 Transmission Removal
Hi Mudders! I am about to pull the transmission out of my FJ62 but it looks like a big job. Anybody know where I can find a good step by step instruction on how to remove it? A video would be even better. Thanks.
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3B Oil Relief Valve Assembly?
Hey Mudders! Yesterday, I was replacing the oil cooler O rings on my 1984 3B engine, I removed the Oil relief valve assembly case to inspect and remove the old gaskets on the cover. However, in my own stupidity, when cleaning up the old gasket material with my central vacuum system, I...
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BONUS: MOAB!
Well, that about sums it up.
anyways, with that clear, lets get down to business. Incase you didn't know 17 year old kids don't typically know a whole lot of stuff about cars... or engine swaps in general. SO, needless to say despite my countless adventures since i have "completed this project" there is a lot of incomplete work... missing stuff, or things that were improperly installed, worn out parts etc.... this hasn't stopped me from driving this 62 all over B.C, and even a part of the USA but it has left me with a impending feeling of incompletion,
SO my idea is I'm going to finish this for once and for all! here is the list:
1. Dashboard Gauge cluster lighting - lights don't work
2. 4wd light
3. Fuel Gauge, and RPM gauge
4. Seat belt light
5. Radio
6. Wrap and seal entire wiring harness
7. both kickpanel covers (need to be covered)
8. All heating ducts need to be installed
9. carpet kit, and sound deadening
10. replace hatch, and paint tailgate
11. Starter motor brushes
Lots of work right?
(this is only the start of the list, but ill chip away at it)
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So, I figured I would start my progress on the inside of the truck and work my way out. first ill tackle replacing the carpet.
So after some research, and reading vtcruiser60s thread, I have decided to order Siless 80mil sound deadener, and 157mil sound deadening foam. looks like the 60 series approximately will require about 70 square feet of deadening. Now, I know there is lots of debate on what the best deadener is, but in Canada we have significantly less options for deadener- so it boils down to: Amazon basics 80mil $94, Kill mat 80mil $100 , and Hushmat 60mil$177
interestingly enough, Hushmat was the THINNEST of the three, at only 60 mils, and is $177 dollars for 36Sqft, - NOPE! - however amazon basics has had really good reviews in terms of decibel reduction, but apparently in the last month, the quality has gone down, and some say its thinner now... maybe there has been a change in manufacturer? Besides, we are sound deadening a FJ60 here - we need to have realistic expectations on the outcome.
with that on the order, I went ahead and ordered DNPs carpet KIT.... And it looks not bad! i will say that the color seems almost bang on, but the carpet, does seem a little bit thinner, however I think it will transform the look of the interior, and is just about the best carpet kit that is readily available.
So after some research, and reading vtcruiser60s thread, I have decided to order Siless 80mil sound deadener, and 157mil sound deadening foam. looks like the 60 series approximately will require about 70 square feet of deadening. Now, I know there is lots of debate on what the best deadener is, but in Canada we have significantly less options for deadener- so it boils down to: Amazon basics 80mil $94, Kill mat 80mil $100 , and Hushmat 60mil$177
interestingly enough, Hushmat was the THINNEST of the three, at only 60 mils, and is $177 dollars for 36Sqft, - NOPE! - however amazon basics has had really good reviews in terms of decibel reduction, but apparently in the last month, the quality has gone down, and some say its thinner now... maybe there has been a change in manufacturer? Besides, we are sound deadening a FJ60 here - we need to have realistic expectations on the outcome.
with that on the order, I went ahead and ordered DNPs carpet KIT.... And it looks not bad! i will say that the color seems almost bang on, but the carpet, does seem a little bit thinner, however I think it will transform the look of the interior, and is just about the best carpet kit that is readily available.
