fuel starvation, summertime edition-SOLVED 4 years later (1 Viewer)

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I’ve driven it pretty hard in the spring even as far as dragging my expedition rig to Katemcy rocks for the lone star cruiser event.

No issues and I used much more fuel than on this trip.

I’ll start delving into this but I hate to change ‘everything’. Will be methodical and only change one thing at a time
 
Whats even worse, they OKed 15% Ethanol. This will burn up boat motors fast. Da man solving the world problems
 
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After years of on and off symptoms of an empty fuel bowl under load, I’ve finally found the source.

I’ve struggled with limited range and what I thought was boiling of modern fuel or vapor lock issues.

I finally dove head first into this and changed everything. Pump, lines, return to OEM rigid lines, etc etc. Same problem but worse. Bucking, sputtering, and inability to climb/drive reliably.

I broke down my pride and took it to a mechanic. Through isolation techniques with electric fuel pumps, pressure gauges and fuel cans, the problem isolated to the carb.

We were getting fuel pressure to the carb with pressure but an empty bowl under load. Inspection of the carb diagram let to the AAAH HA moment
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The banjo bolt fuel restrictor was the key.
The center console was removed and pinching the fuel return line solved every fuel starvation/delivery symptom. Immediately. Until the return line was uncrimped and all the problems immediately returned.


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Turns out I happen to have a “spare parts” carb that was the actual original to the truck. The prior owner put a later year carb on the rig due to a vac leak at the butterfly shaft bushings. That carb worked (sort of) but had a banjo bolt with no restriction. 100% of fuel was flowing to the tank via the return with no restrictor. The path of least resistance was to the return of the tank and there was not enough resistance to force fuel through the needle valve under load.

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Later banjo bolt


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correct banjo bolt with bushing and restrictor.

Immediately we had correction of the symptoms and the mustard is flying.
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Downhill with the wind of course.


It’s been a frustrating road but I think I can leave town now without fear and worry of bucking and sputtering


hOOter
 
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Wow - be sure to put that mechanic at the top of your Xmas list :steer:
 
“F#*#&ing A” that is a crazy story.. and I’ve had some crazy experiences! (Like “paper” in the tank that would suck up against fuel sock under high speed, non Landcruiser)
 
“F#*#&ing A” that is a crazy story.. and I’ve had some crazy experiences! (Like “paper” in the tank that would suck up against fuel sock under high speed, non Landcruiser)
It was a shot to my pride to not be able to figure it out on my own. It was a ‘eureka’ moment where all the pieces of the puzzle fit together. I now realize the how and why this thing wouldn’t drive well.

And I even pulled the gas tank out twice to inspect it for leaves pieces of paper or cigarette butts that were blocking the flow.
 
It was a shot to my pride to not be able to figure it out on my own. It was a ‘eureka’ moment where all the pieces of the puzzle fit together. I now realize the how and why this thing wouldn’t drive well.

And I even pulled the gas tank out twice to inspect it for leaves pieces of paper or cigarette butts that were blocking the flow.
Gas tanks make great ashtrays…
 
On a serious note, I am having stumbling issues at higher RPM’s when about to shift into the next gear.

Mine’s a weber (that I didn’t install) so I’ve got no sight glass. Have a spare Aisin carb, just waiting on finding an air cleaner and pulling the trigger on an insulator. Though I’d like to solve this first…
 
Awesome you got it figured out!
 

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