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Sweet :D 5x.012 seems to be a better injector for this motor (at street power levels anyway) based on what I've read on 4BTSwaps, sounds like you're confirming that.

I found a dramatic difference between the stock and Denny T fuel pins. That wouldn't be a bad mod to try next!!
 
The full power screw just keeps getting turned up and I'm wondering if I'll be getting into runaway range soon. Granted I'm only turning it up in 1/2 turn increments but I'm definitely closer to that than I used to be. I'm thinking a fuel pin could get me the last leg I'm looking for.
 
I've not been brave enough (yet) to go more than two full turns in with the full power screw. I've read however that to see if you're close to runaway, jab the throttle or give the throttle arm a fairly quick twist, to raise the RPM up after each full power screw adjustment. If the RPMs hang before dropping back down (after letting go of the throttle of course) then you're getting close to runaway.
 
That's the same thing I've read and that's what I've been doing to test for it hanging but I've been good so far. Also the reason I'm adjusting in smaller increments to try and catch that with less risk.
 
Did some reviewing on the Marine 370 injectors. Lots of comments that they are dirty and smoke. The reason for that is because those people are trying to run a 155 degree injector in a 145 degree piston bowl without compensating for it. So of course they'll smoke and haze more. For me, since I have 155 bowls these injectors are running clean. I've also come across comments that suggest the wider 155 pattern is better at making more power. By dumb luck I seem to have a good set-up going.


Adjusted the fuel pin to 75% and reduced AFC and MBC spring tension by 1/2 turn each to allow boost to build quicker. Hit 43psi this morning getting on the freeway. Those on-ramps seem to be getting shorter.

The pull is strong and boost is more responsive and builds quicker. There's a haze on throttle stomping that cleans up quickly as the twins get to work. Still a lot cleaner than the Modified injectors. I think it's time to go fuel pin hunting.
 
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It was a good and bad day yesterday. I hit my psi goal of 50 psi total boost :), but Dora didn't make it home on her own :(.

From a quick parking lot diagnostic it looks like all that happened was it popped a freeze plug and lost my coolant. It got hot before I shut it down but there's no evidence of coolant/oil mixing on the dipstick so I don't think it compromised the head gasket. I'll get better eye's on it this evening but hopefully it's a simple freeze plug replacement. I'll have to pull the turbos to get access to the freeze plug that popped so it will be a good amount of work for a low $ part.

A HUGE thanks to TonsofFun who brought his truck and trailer over last night and helped me go rescue my damsel in distress.
 
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It's nuts that you're getting into the power levels where popping freeze plugs is a problem. Fingers crossed for an easy fix and no other issues!

Anything more permanent than freeze plugs that you can install behind the turbos so that this doesn't happen again?

In case you hadn't planned this already, I'd replace all of the freeze plugs on the PS side of the block while the turbos are out.
 
Dug into it over the weekend and it looks like it was just a freeze plug that popped. Pulled off turbo plumbing to get a better look.

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The plug was no where to be found, probably on the side of the freeway.

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I checked on the other main plugs. The main plugs for the 4bt are one up front under a pulley mount, two on the passenger side of the block and one in the back. I have a block heater in one of my side holes. The hole up front is covered by a pulley mount. The rear is also covered by the adapter plate.

Hole covered by tranny adapter.

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With the front and back holes covered I decided to leave them. If the rear pops I'll have to pull the engine to get things separated to install a new one and with this adapter plate covering it, I think it will be tough for this one to come out.

So I bought just one of this style of freeze plug.

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I have a theory that my thermostat may not have been open or was barely open. It may have failed shut. Spinning the engine to ~2800 rpm built enough pressure in the block to pop the freeze plug. It seems like if the thermostat was open the radiator cap would have released some of the built up pressure. As a precaution I am replacing it as well. Geno's Garage was well liked in what I dug up so I ordered one from him.

http://www.genosgarage.com/GATES-33...12V/productinfo/GATES-33758-KIT/#.VMak-zd0yHs

Other things I read were about setting up a coolant bypass/pressure relief off of the rear hole. Also some have clipped the fins on their water pumps to reduce their efficiency. I'm really not interested in pursuing these options so hopefully this stronger freeze plug and a new thermostat will be enough for my set up.
 
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From what I could find it was more the rear one that pops rather than the side one like mine. Generally the rear plug is usually not covered but mine happens to be due to the adapter design.
 
I'm curios about the pressure relief setup. I poked around Geno's site a little, but didn't find cooling system stuff, got a link or pic of it?
 
Parts came in.

Here is the gasket, Gates part # 33668. For a pre-94 cummins B series there is only one gasket. The one I took out had writing on it to help clarify its orientation.

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On the left is the old thermostat. On the right is the new one, Gates part #33758. It's a 180F thermostat and research suggested that the OEM temp was both 180F and 190F. Figure I'd try the 180F and if too low I can always swap in a warmer one.

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Old one on the left (I estimate it was 190F), new one on the right. Earlier 6bt owners complained about the coolant temperature fluctuation with the thermostat cycling open and closed. The eventual fix was to add more bypass holes (also called jiggle pins) to the thermostat. I never had temperature cycling issues on my 4bt and it looks like I had one of the updated thermostats installed. The new thermostat did not have the same number of bypass holes so I decided to add some myself; two 1/8" holes down at the bottom. The other reason I wanted to add some bypass ports is to allow some of the pressure to bleed out into the radiator before the thermostat opens. My theory is that this might reduce the possibility of building too much pressure to pop a freeze plug prior to a fully open thermostat.

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The main reason for a jiggle pin is to allow the trapped air a way to exit for burping. It's recommended to install that port in the 12 o'clock position when installing the thermostat. This is my housing with that port in the 12 o'clock position. Spread some sealant on a few spots and put it back together.

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Next, on to the freeze plug. It was machined out of aluminum and the bolt is stainless.

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Applied some sealant around the o-ring and in the bolt pocket and tightened it down. I let the sealant cure over night before adding any coolant to the system.

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I put everything back together and did some filling and burping. She started up and ran without issue. I let her warm up for a while to see if there were any leaks and so far all's well. I took it out yesterday and drove it today to work and I noticed it does take longer to warm up. Operating temperature is a needle width below my 190F mark on my manual gauge which is a little lower than before. I'd like to stay in the 190F to 205F range for operation so I'll probably need to adjust my fan controller to turn the fans on at a little higher temp. I'll run this for a week to see how it sits and to help expel any air still in the system.

Decided on an M&H inc. M3 fuel pin as it looks to have a little better fueling control at pre to low-boost than the Denny T stage 1 I had narrowed it down too. Gave them a call and they are out of stock until the middle of the month so I got put on the waiting list. That was fine by me. With all these fueling adjustments my TPS for my tranny controller is reading a little different and I'll want to adjust some shift parameters but I might just wait until the fuel pin comes. For now she drives civil cruising around at less than half throttle but above half throttle it's ridiculous that it is just a 4 cylinder diesel. Dora has become rather fun to drive.
 
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