Exhaust cost

[copasspupil]

I went to my local exhaust shop in Auburn. They are well known for fantastic pipes, mandrel bent tubing and custom headers. I tell them that I ust bought a landcruiser and need headers for it. they tell me that they were the ones that originally made the over the frame headers that so many here love. I'm pretty sure that they did these since they are typical thick flanged ones. 3/8" is normal for them.

I asked them about doing block headers, ceramic coated, aluminized pipes and magna or flowmasters out the back. I asked if they would go 2 into one..."no"... equalized pipe and dual exhaust they say. Price out the door was 1600 + tax. 600 (headers) and 900 (pipes and labor). I know they love their work and make nice stuff but the price still seems high.

Also, I was looking at Cirbo underneath pic of his exhaust and can't for the life of me figure out how you could place duals up in there.

 

[dgangle]

nice costs money. how nice you want it?

there are plenty of ways to go cheap. all depends on your budget, needs, desires, abillities, tools and what your time is worth. $1600'll buy a lot of creativity at my house.

why would anyone want duals on an I6?

 

[avgas]

Out of curiousity was it stans headers? If it is then they make good stuff for sure.

After you deduct the cost of the mufflers and the pipe they probably got only about $600 in there for labor, which is on the high side but not incredibly high when you think about all the bends you'd have to do for duals out the back, tucked up nice, on a 40. Plus it sounds like they would be installing the headers? thats an hour or two of labor itself, depending on the shoprate could be a couple hundred. so then you're down to $400 labor for running the duals which ain't too bad.

 

[copasspupil]

Sorry it has a chevy 350 in it not an I6.

Yes it was Stan's. I guess I was expecting a little less. I was also placing the headers on myself not them.

How could you put duals in one of these? The mufflers must be tubed not oval shaped.

 

[inkpot]

Howdy! Lots of ways to do it for less. Headers are lots of $$$ for not much real gain, just sound. I used rear dump cast manifolds, over the frame, ran into turbos tucked up nice and close to the floor, but I did include heat shields over them. Exit in front of the tires. Good clearance, and nice sound. Lot less pipe and turns to pay for. Some don't like the forward exit on the pipes, but I luv it. Did two rigs this way, no problems. John

 

[avgas]

It's possible to run duals with a traditional muffler, just need to be creative, I went cheap and dumped mine out the side for now. Ive got plans to change to out the back.

If you decide to go the manifold route, I got a couple new ones that I ended up not using....

 

[dgangle]

Ditto to Inkpot. Heatshields are very important. Even with them and header wrap from the exit of the ramshorn manifolds to the mufflers, my floor still gets too hot to not wear shoes in the summer.

I'd suggest sourcing some cast iron ramshorns, install them yourself (with new studs) and any decent muffler guy can fab something nice. Just tell them you want it up tight and high. I've never paid more than $300 for the complete remainder of the system to be made.

Another suggestion I will make. I removed the gas tank so they could have that area open as to mount/reinforce the pass-side rearmost hanger.

Oh yea, 2-chamber flowmasters sounded like a redneck farm tractor. They lasted 5 minutes before I paid twice to fix that.

 

[camcruiser13]

i just got some cheapo ramsheads and then paid a shop to do the ypipe and dump the exhaust out the back.

cost was 200 for them to do it,
i paid about 100 for manifolds
60 for muffler

so 360 total

 

[dgangle]

....they tell me that they were the ones that originally made the over the frame headers that so many here love...

I just re-read your original post. I trust that you were making a funny and not serious about how great and wonderful are the Slick-Fit over-the-frame SBC headers.

Read away: https://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series-tech/260082-v8-headers-exhaust.html

 

[F-junker]

Howdy! Lots of ways to do it for less. Headers are lots of $$$ for not much real gain, just sound. I used rear dump cast manifolds, over the frame, ran into turbos tucked up nice and close to the floor, but I did include heat shields over them. Exit in front of the tires. Good clearance, and nice sound. Lot less pipe and turns to pay for. Some don't like the forward exit on the pipes, but I luv it. Did two rigs this way, no problems. John

I agree with the headers making more noise and frankly I find them a pita as far as under the hood heat and retorquing them frequently, and leaks... But there is a build limit without them. You will gain free hp depending upon the build. running headers vs mainfolds in my BB chevy is an awesome gain in build power. I couldn't break 550 hp with mainfolds, w/headers no prob.

Off my pedestal...

 

[dgangle]

550 HP BBC in an FJ40? pics?

 

[copasspupil]

I was totally being sarcastic...it's what I do best.

 

[DanS HJ-45]

Yours is funny because you've got the header issue in there. And the ceramic coating. I just use steel.

But I can get a very well done exhaust (Alia76 says I should just use the exhaust as a slider!) on the faux-lux for about $500. That's from the turbo dump to the tailpipe. Similar costs on one of the power wagons.

I'll be going to the same place with the 40 soon for it's new exhaust.

Your price seems very high to me as well.

Dan

 

[copasspupil]

It's not like my fastback. It is stroked and SC. This is just EFI 350. I'm not trying to make lots of HP. No need. Plenty of hp for 411 rear.

 

[dargreg]

In 1978 we put a 427 in a 73 40 only problem we had was birfs. Then we rolled it over what we used to call the Devils Dink end of cruiser.

 

[copasspupil]

OK. I feel better. I got quoted 500 for exhaust. I just need to figure out what block header to go with.

 

[dgangle]

Stuck on headers, huh? Sooner or later you will be replacing them with GM cast iron manifolds.

Everyone must learn the hard way I guess................

 

[copasspupil]

No I just found a set of cast iron rams local for 20. I'll ceramic coat them and call it good. Just following your props thanks!

 

[dgangle]

Make it easy on your muffler guy and less expensive for you in the long run by putting in all new studs now.

You also may want to show him these manifolds and where they dump out so you don't get yourself in a situation of spending for the coating and then either not being able to use them or not liking the way your muffler guy has to route the system using these. You never want to hear " I can't use these" after dropping all that coin....

 

[copasspupil]

Aren't they suppose to center dump? Are the studs pressed in?