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You could get the wheelers extended length bump stops too....


Wheeler's Front SuperBump Bumpstop Set for 2005+ Tacoma, 2003+ 4Runner, 2007+ FJ Cruiser, 2007+ Tundra (01SUPERBUMPKIT)

I'm emailing about the above-linked stops with the optional 3/8" extension and if this would be functional and provide full protection for my rig @ full stuff, given the 5/8" bump stop location difference...... I guess my concern is will, "super durable poly cellular foam" provide max bump stop function at full stuff
Does that stuff compress and stop suspension travel (in this case before the shock bottoms out)? as well as stock or these real rubber (i.e. http://timbren.com/blog/products-page/abstof/) of road stops...
Thanks again for the link/recommendation.

 

[GXMac]

hmm, i guess the question is: are the stock bump stops component construction (Can the thing be taken apart and a longer bolt be threaded in?), or is the stud embedded in the rubber, and therefore it's all one piece?

I recall the stock bump stop being one piece- I still have them in my garage and confirm tonight.

I can send you my old ones if you'd like to experiment with them.

 

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I recall the stock bump stop being one piece- I still have them in my garage and confirm tonight.

I can send you my old ones if you'd like to experiment with them.

sweet. Yeah. PMd

 

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Did some jacking suspension articulation testing to look at bump stops vs. compression.

 

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The [quick] jack tests were unsuccessful. First was tire on platform on jack and that got exciting when tire rolled the the jack spat out

This is the first attempt. 13" off the ground but I noticed i wasn't very centered, so i repositioned the rig and got higher the second attempt, but the jack spit out the front as the jack was fore biased and not perfectly centered .

Maybe b/c jacking @ the FSB mount this wasn't a good stuff test.
At full 16" throw (platform 19" AGL the front was off the ground but rear not off.
It was only like 1.5" compressed.

 

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Also did a full droop check on brake lines and ball joints.

Brake lines look good, I thought they might get taught but they look like there's plenty of play in them with this 0.75" leveling puck

UCA looks like not close to binding on spring, and ball joint looks okay to mine inexperienced eye. It's at a good articulation but I don't think it's bound, maxed or overly stressed

Lower ball joint looks fine. I guess this would be more articulated on compression though, right?

 

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so, I did a stuff/flex test tonight.
With a sample size of one solo test it looks like the bump stop does or will make contact at full stuff. I might not have gotten it all the way stuffed and i stopped right as the rear tire started losing traction and didn't push the ATRAC to climb more.

driver front climbing

pass side with driver climbing

Passenger climbing

driver side with passenger climbing

That's maybe 18-20" vertical, I measured roughly where I thought the tire might have been...

I need to do it again, more controlled, in the light with a spotter.

 

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just discovered my passenger roof rail channel is missing the rubber strip..

 

[Arailt]

just discovered my passenger roof rail channel is missing the rubber strip..

Both of mine are missing. No issues. I think they’re purely aesthetic.

 

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trying to cut 'spacers' for the bump stops.

Need better equipment, ergo a metal-cutting hole saw.

 

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Rhino Rack Sunseeker awning mounted on factory side rails WITH (slight mod to) Rhino Rack's supplied mounting hardware.
(per @gahi )
I took the supplied 1/4" steel "L" Bracket

and gave it another 90 deg bend

scuffed and squirted them.

and bolted them up to the supplied cam nuts (as above, just like unistrut nuts) which I inserted into the side rails tracks.

RR awning camnut

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Low profile and rad!

Quick video of the Sunseeker deployment...

 

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More on the roof rails.
So I pulled it all out to get that silly square bolt from driver front and swapped the cam nuts/awning brackets to driver side. i squirted the 1/4" cam nuts and bolt heads black and put it all back together. I put in 3/8" cam nuts but they're like 1/16" thicker than the ones that came with the awning and just a scosh too fat for the GX rail slots.

So I used the grinder a then squirted them black too. So I've got a 3/8 cam nut first and last on the pass side and the ones that came with the Rhino rack awning on the driver side plus a pair of 1/4" ones in the middle. I wanted the larger ones in there for peace of mind in securing/whatever, and the 1/4" just seem like small bolts but they're probably fine as whatevers. I could put in 1/4" eye bolts and that could be useful... i dunno...

I did something this morning, and that feels good.

 

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Rad Rubber engine bay splash guards.

 

[joabmc]

I’ve been meaning to add rad rubber to my list. Mine OEs are falling apart!

 

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I’ve been meaning to add rad rubber to my list. Mine OEs are falling apart!

Do It!!
I only had one factory cover remaining and that one was brittle as foo!

 

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dropping this here for reference:
stock bump stop.

 

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Fender liner mod to clear over sized tires with slight lift.

I did another 5-min mechanicing job and modded the fender liners as with the 165*70s AND the leveling lift, I had tire contact at full lock...somehow only in reverse, but whatever ;P

 

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finished bump stop spacers v 1.0.
These are 0.25" x 2" with 0.5" hole (maybe 5/16 would be more perfect

bump stop spacers

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bump stops and 0.25" spacers

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bump stop spacer remaining thread metric

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bump stop spacer remaining thread STD

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bump stop with 0.25" spacer

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*EDIT*
I found a couple leveling kit install videos that show installing a bump stop spacer. This video (7:37 for bump stop spacer) is installing a 3-1 (3" front, 1" rear) kit on a '16 taco. They have to use a ratchet strap to get the front back together to get the ball joint back in the LCA. It's a 1.5" tall puck, thus a 3" lift. kinda big, but like I said previously, seems like tacos use these big spacers often, and some FJs too.
ANYWAY, point here is that some of these "kits" come with a bump stop spacer, so it is a thing some kits are trying to address....
They also install a diff drop, I think that's because the overall lift is > 2" (is that the magic number in Toyota land IFS for dealing with axle angles?).
They also have skid plate spacers which must accommodate the diff drop. I think all these spacers are because of the extreme lift gained...
I've seen comments (here in mud and elsewhere) suggesting the shock can accommodate 1-1.5" from it's inherent safety margins. lift I still hold that a bump stop spacer seems like a good idea and I may just stay with my 1/4" instead of going up to the 3.8" I was going to build for v 2.0

Still, these are the low co$t "mall crawler" "parking lot hero" means of lift and I still posit that the mild 3/4" puck affording 1.5" front lift is a viable means of gaining ground clearance on a stock rig that sees off-road use. I still recommend caution with hard or extreme compression and also suggest spacing the bump stop down as insurance.
until I pull the trigger on an air-bag delete and real lift with concurrent suspension travel gain, I'll continue my use and testing of the 3/4" front puck which retains stock variable shock dampening.

 

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Because I can't concentrate on anything else, I'm prepping for the Needles.
Installed the basket and did the wind-break rope wrap.

 

[Jstawgn]

I had tire contact at full lock...somehow only in reverse,

Your lower control arm bushing are relatively soft and they move back and forth. Wheel torque going reverse push the wheel back a bit. You could adjust the caster to max. It would give more fender clearance. You do this by adjusting the rear cam bolt fully out and the front fully in.