Just curious. I've been looking for a fj80 or low priced fjz for a while now and they all seem to be way overpriced. I get that it's a toyota, I've owned 4 Toyota's over the last 15 years. Just seems that everyone expects double the blue book for a stock land cruiser. I checked kbb, nada and edmunds on one a while back and it averaged out to 1700.00. Guy was firm at 3k with zero maintenance records. Been looking at a few 91's with over 225k on them and their all priced at 3k. Is it just something that I'm going to have to overpay to get or are these realistic prices?
do fj80's ever sell for bluebook?
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Prices are regional. If they are overpriced in your area they won't sell. If they are selling well at 3k in your area, then the asking price is reasonable.
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I've never sold any cruiser for less than book. Mike
I see no, zero, zip, nada value in a KBB or Blue Book value and would never expect to buy or sell anything based on the "data" from one of those sources. The local market will dictate their value, nothing else. You can't find any at your price means your price is unrealistic, not the sellers asking price
If your budget is limiting the price you can pay, then you are likely going to end up with a really rough rig, ie $1700 is likely going to mean at least a blown head gasket and lots and lots of maintenance to get to be reliable. That means the cost of the head work plus another $2500 in brakes, rotors, wheel bearings, axle seals, hoses, radiator, belts, seals, power steering, fan clutch, starter, alternator, lots of oil/fluids (power steering, brakes fluid, engine oil, tranny flush, F/R diffs, transfer case, coolant).
Save more money or lower your expectations. I hope you find a good 80 that meets your needs. This is a great site with lots of support once you find the best truck for you.
If your budget is limiting the price you can pay, then you are likely going to end up with a really rough rig, ie $1700 is likely going to mean at least a blown head gasket and lots and lots of maintenance to get to be reliable. That means the cost of the head work plus another $2500 in brakes, rotors, wheel bearings, axle seals, hoses, radiator, belts, seals, power steering, fan clutch, starter, alternator, lots of oil/fluids (power steering, brakes fluid, engine oil, tranny flush, F/R diffs, transfer case, coolant).
Save more money or lower your expectations. I hope you find a good 80 that meets your needs. This is a great site with lots of support once you find the best truck for you.
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Toyota 4x4s of any model are always going to fetch higher prices than are typically listed by KBB, NADA, etc. The land cruiser is no exception.
Craigslist is a perfect example of this. All the $6,000 cruisers in my area with better then 200k have been on there for months. In fact its irritating because they post them every day. The few that have been a deal go very quickly.
KBB, NADA, Edmunds are all out of touch on the 80 series Land Cruisers.
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I work for a Lexus Dealership.. We traded the Land Cruiser I'm driving for $3000. with 176k. You can pretty much throw the books away on older Land Cruisers.
Funner put it in perspective
Lou
Funner put it in perspective
Lou
On any 16+ year old vehicle that originally sold for $40k to $50k, $1500 difference now is chicken scratch. You're worrying about "getting a good deal" when you should be worrying about the deal you might get.
For instance, was the front axle recently serviced? That's worth $1500 right there (or more if you price that service at a dealership.)
What kind of added equipment is on the vehicle? An ARB? That's close to $1k alone.
What you need to consider is the condition of the vehicle, the service history, and any special equipment. That may or may not add up for you. If you just want a DD 80, then the Bluebook might be of some help. Other than that prices and values can be all over the place.
In any case, if you're worried about $1500 here or a $1000 there, you're buying the wrong vehicle to start with...
For instance, was the front axle recently serviced? That's worth $1500 right there (or more if you price that service at a dealership.)
What kind of added equipment is on the vehicle? An ARB? That's close to $1k alone.
What you need to consider is the condition of the vehicle, the service history, and any special equipment. That may or may not add up for you. If you just want a DD 80, then the Bluebook might be of some help. Other than that prices and values can be all over the place.
In any case, if you're worried about $1500 here or a $1000 there, you're buying the wrong vehicle to start with...
This is actually a really great way of thinking about it. I see guys caught up in getting a deal which normally means $1-2K less than what they may have otherwise paid. In the grand scheme of 80-things this doesn't mean much.In any case, if you're worried about $1500 here or a $1000 there, you're buying the wrong vehicle to start with...
Well put Greentruck.
These trucks are all over the place in price. They run forever even when abused with no maint. So the ones that are cheap need a WHOLE LOT of work. Maybe parts aren't that bad to pay for but if you don't do your own wrenching the labor will add up real quick $$$ I bought a well cared for 96 locked with 197k miles for $4700. I thought that was a screaming deal. It has taken me about 1.5 yrs of wrenching on weekends/steady projects to get it in great shape.
In the long run I like to wrench for hobby time so it's worth it. But I would say paying $8k to $15 for one already done is not a bad way to go either.
These trucks are all over the place in price. They run forever even when abused with no maint. So the ones that are cheap need a WHOLE LOT of work. Maybe parts aren't that bad to pay for but if you don't do your own wrenching the labor will add up real quick $$$ I bought a well cared for 96 locked with 197k miles for $4700. I thought that was a screaming deal. It has taken me about 1.5 yrs of wrenching on weekends/steady projects to get it in great shape.
In the long run I like to wrench for hobby time so it's worth it. But I would say paying $8k to $15 for one already done is not a bad way to go either.
Paid $9k for mine.
I paid 6K for my stock locked '93 with leather, two tone paint, etc. I've already put 3K into it, and that's just new tires, used steel rims, radiator, and a ton of PM.
I'm still happy with what I got for the price...this is, by no means, an inexpensive "hobby".
Regardless, I LOVE my 80!
I'm still happy with what I got for the price...this is, by no means, an inexpensive "hobby".
Regardless, I LOVE my 80!
I paid 4000 for my 94 with 174k miles down here in South Carolina. A beautiful stock one owner truck!
^^^ This.. They are just there to give you merely an idea.
You'd typically see a decent '80 from 4-6k and still stock... Just look around, get out of your zip code range if you find the closer ones unreasonable. I found mine 4 hours away from me...
I got really lucky with mine. Nine years ago, I bought my '93 with 156k on the clock, bone stock, for $5,500. It now has 249k, about 50k on a new Toyota short block and head casting, Hanna sliders, ARB Commercial bar, Warn 8274, Aussie locker, blah, blah, blah. All my maintenance is current, I did the birfs in September with new spindles, wheel and knuckle bearings, and 100 series pads. On Kelly, it is worth mid 2k. I wouldn't even consider anything under $5,500. To an enthusiast, I'm sure I'd get it.
I agree, prices vary by region. I'm in Denver and I scoured Craig's for about a year before I found my 80. Got a 97 with just over 170k. 2.5 OME. 305/70/16 km2's. Paint and leather in great shape, recent valve job/head gasket. All new brakes with drilled rotors. Electrically everything works, from factory lockers to the antenna.
I paid 10k. Which to me was a steel! Just depends on the individual and what your looking for! Me, I don't have a ton of spare time anymore so it made more sense to buy a rig closer to being baselined than not. An individual with time on their hands could easily buy one her in Denver for 5-6k and spend the time and money to baseline it themselves!
I paid 10k. Which to me was a steel! Just depends on the individual and what your looking for! Me, I don't have a ton of spare time anymore so it made more sense to buy a rig closer to being baselined than not. An individual with time on their hands could easily buy one her in Denver for 5-6k and spend the time and money to baseline it themselves!
JI chuckled when I saw the kbb on the FJ80 I just bought. It was the most expensive by a couple hundred and by far the best one of the four I looked at in my area. And they were all more than double kbb. I feel like I got a very solid deal.
Truth is, I don't think a vehicle this old is really a "used" car in the kbb sense. It's in a weird no-mans land between used and classic/collectible. Since drivable FJ60/62's in my area are going for double again what I paid, I figure I made a good investment in this 80, especially since I plan to do all my own work and drive it a long time.
And what others have said is the main thing, market demand will determine price.
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Truth is, I don't think a vehicle this old is really a "used" car in the kbb sense. It's in a weird no-mans land between used and classic/collectible. Since drivable FJ60/62's in my area are going for double again what I paid, I figure I made a good investment in this 80, especially since I plan to do all my own work and drive it a long time.
And what others have said is the main thing, market demand will determine price.
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I looked for several months, far and wide, for a low-miles, stock truck from anywhere but the rust-belt. I work in the auto industry so I was certain I'd sniff out a great deal. Finally, a decent truck showed up locally - in Denver. Apparently the market was strong here as I payed several thousand over any book value 
then put another 4k toward p.m. and upgrades. To me it's justified. The alternative was making lofty payments on a newer truck, with no money leftover for modding it for several years. What fun would that be?
then put another 4k toward p.m. and upgrades. To me it's justified. The alternative was making lofty payments on a newer truck, with no money leftover for modding it for several years. What fun would that be?
