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Looks like I am going to buy a welder to help restore my '78 FJ40. I have some welding experience and a 220v receptacle in my garage.

For those of you who weld - what do you recommend I buy? What would be the most useful when working on an old land cruiser?
 
Millermatic 140 but since u have 220 hook up go with the millermatic 211
 
I love my Hobart 210. It works great. You cannot go wrong with any of the name brands like miller, Hobart, or Lincoln.
 
Go to your local welding supply shop and explain to them that you are a beginner and are looking for a setup. They will be glad to explain the options and fufill your needs based on your budget.

It makes sense for them to treat you well since you will be coming back for supplies/gases/etc. You may also be looking to them for servicing whatever you buy.

Invest in an autodimming helmet, a good wire brush, good welding gloves and those magnetic angles.

You will also need a good cutoff saw, grinder and beltsander. Your work area should be well ventilated, wind free and free of any flammable debris.

Doc
 
i weld for a living, and bought a miller 211 for the cruiser "shop". it's a compact unit that offers quite the performance. it will run fine on 110v, but even better on 220v.
both the heat and wire feed settings are infinite, but the auto set setting on the wire feed is so good it's about all i use. you just set the heat range to metal thickness you have. they use metal thickness instead of a 1-10 number range for the voltage setting.
i'm biased though, all we have in the shop or on the trucks are blue boxes.
 
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Invest in an autodimming helmet, a good wire brush, good welding gloves and those magnetic angles.

You will also need a good cutoff saw, grinder and beltsander. Your work area should be well ventilated, wind free and free of any flammable debris.

Doc


This is solid advice, especially concerning the auto dimming helmet. My weld quality went from crap to pretty nice just using a cheapo HF auto dimming helmet. Also, you'll need the above accessories to complete the jobs correctly.

I was interested in welding so I looked around on CL for a while and I found a gently used Millermatic 200 (tap style unit). I picked it up for a song and taught, heck who am I kidding---I'm still learning, myself to weld. Just remember that practice makes perfect so do yourself a favor and set good habit patterns from the get go. Also, get all the scrap you can and just blaze away. Gluing metal together is great stress relief!

Some things I learned along the way:

-Clean your metal and bevel it if necessary
-Get an auto dimming helmet
-Pre-heating is important, especially for load bearing structures
-Never forget shop safety

Some good resources:
-This forum
-Search YouTube for "welding tips and tricks"--there's a guy that has a great channel and he knows what he's doing. I think he also has a website: weldingtipsandtricks.com.

Anyways, hope this helps. You WILL NOT regret getting a welder. The projects you can accomplish will go through the roof, plus it's nice not to have to rely on other people for stuff. Good luck!
 
Millermatic 160 works great for me. Watch out for the cheeper auto dimming helmets that don't offer the real protection for your eyes. the 3M speedglass helments are awesome.
 
Millermatic 160 works great for me. Watch out for the cheeper auto dimming helmets that don't offer the real protection for your eyes. the 3M speedglass helments are awesome.

Just for clarification the HF helmet I bought is quad sensor and is just as fast dimming (1/20,000th of a second) as a $250 Miller helmet---but yes, protect them eyeballs!

I plan on upgrading one day, however.
 
First , check what amperage that 220v outlet is wired to handle - it may be only 30 amps which is not enough for a transformer type welder - only inverter units up to around 180 amps . Two, keep your eyes open , there are a lot of good used welders for sale - buying new isn't cheap and your needs may change down the road . If you are dead set on mig make sure it's set up for gas , flux core is useful but can be a pain to deal with unless you have the experience . Don't buy imported junk , stick with Miller or Lincoln for trade-in/resale value and longevity .

Stay clear of those cheapo auto-dim helmets - last one I used for a 10hr day left me half blind for 3 days , not worth your eyes . Used , good quality helmets are out there and most parts are cheap . Mine was $350 , half the cost of my glasses so do the math .

Go to weldingtipsandtricks.com - Jody Collier is a wiz at welding videos and provides some of the most useful info I've ever encountered for anyone from starting novice to experts .

Sarge
 
I've used a manual helmet for years... broke down and bought a good Auto Dimming helmet. No comparison. No flash whatsoever. Using if I don't even realise it is dimming until I think about the lack of flash. It's a seamless transition.

The only regret I have is waiting so long before buying one.



While you're at it, skip the ultra cheap angle grinder. Mine lasted for about 2' of cutting through the fender of a 40 before it burned up.
 
Love my little Miller 180 and like the Miller helmet I picked up too. I finally just made a simple clamp-on torch holder - doesn't sound like a big deal but it's great to have a solid place/holder when you sit the torch down. Just one of many little things that I should have done sooner.

Almost got a 3M helmet...
 
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First , check what amperage that 220v outlet is wired to handle - it may be only 30 amps which is not enough for a transformer type welder -
Sarge

Not really.

I've run my Miller 210 (predecessor and nearly identical to the 212) for years on a 30 amp circuit. Max draw right out of the specifications is 29 amps. Never tripped the breaker once.


To me the real constraint is budget. For $1000 roughly, no better choice than the Miller 180 or the equivalent Lincoln, or Hobart. The 211 looks interesting with the dual voltage input. Never used a machine like that, but if Brian says it's good, I'd use it.

The other constraint of the smaller machines is duty cycle. That's where the bigger units shine.

Regarding helmets-the HF one works OK for $50, but the better helmets are worth it. I've used a Miller helmet for the last 3-4 years and other than having to change the batteries once a year it's been great. Much better than the HF ones.

For the original poster, realize this---The welder itself is just a small part of the expense. It's everything else that adds up. From the Helmet ($300+) to protective clothing ($150), to a chop saw, to gas bottles($200) to angle grinders (at least 2, 3 is better-one to grind, one with a cutting wheel and one with a flap disc-- Milwaukee only here, trust me), you end up spending a pile of money to be able to weld, above and beyond the welder itself.

So we're back to...what's your budget? $2000 would be about right for a decent 220 welder and accessories. If you want a heavy duty machine, add $500-$1000.
 
Esab Migmaster 250. best bang for the buck. Don't buy their digital units despite what the salesmen tell you. More to go wrong
In 24years I've only had to buy 4. I still have three. The one I bought in'89 I sold to a friend six years ago . The company was branded L-TEC back then, a subsidiary of Linde. He still uses it every day. It's a basic , high powered mig with a great duty cycle. No programs or fancy circuitry to fail, just power and reliability.
 
I finally bought an auto darkening helmet and just used it yesterday for the first time. Wow! Wish I'd done it years ago.
 
I love my little Miller 140. The auto-set feature basically allows a complete novice the ability to pretty much turn it on and stick metal together. Which is basically what I did when I got it. I don't think I could ever go back to a non-auto darkening helmet and I've got a cheap one.
 
Thanks for the great info! I wasn't planning on spending more than $500 for a welder b/c I plan to only take on small projects.

I'll spend some time at the weldingtipsandtricks website - that looks like a great place to get information. I'm also going to scour craigslist for a good quality used welder.

I have just one more general question...what is the acetylene torch used for?
 

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