Delancy's NEW 76 PIGGY ???

[cruiserbrett]

Make a 1/4" or 3/8" plate that sandwiches between the power steering pump bracket and the head, and drops down low enough that you can weld two 3/4" round stock spacers to that are the right length to mate to the a/c bracket. Drill and tap for 10mm x 1.25 bolts and call it good.

 

[PabloCruise]

Not sure how to address, best, but thinking it'd probably be better to fab a new lower bracket, altogether, rather than space at the bottom.

Takers?

The distance the 2F is taller than the three. Compressor mount has to attach at the lower locations on the power steering pump bracket.

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Can see how the lower legs attach to the motor mount here.

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How far they're off and the real challenge if spacing.

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Think I'd lose a fair entry if a solid block could be machined to bolt through the bottom of the motor mount, beveled for the differences in the surfaces, with threaded points to bolt the bracket to?

Other idears?

I'd like to stretch it to fit, but didn't think that's gonna work.

If you are looking for someone to take the AC compressor bracket, I'm your huckleberry. Let me know...

I can see how the compressor bracket attaches to the PS pump bracket, but it is a mystery to me how the AC compressor bracket joins to the engine mount?

Can you photograph that differently? If you can, I bet people could comment on the wisdom of spacing a little more effectively.

Like I said, if you want to find a home for the compressor bracket, that will be my next step in getting AC working in my Pig. Let me know!

 

[Delancy]

See the bolt holes in the motor mount here?

Bolts go through the feet, for lack of better, here, into those holes in first pic.

It's the base of the mount is botched around the actually bolt through the motor mount.

Dunno what the threaded end of the motor are for...

 

[J Mack]

See the bolt holes in the motor mount here?




It's the base of the mount is botched around the actually bolt through the motor mount.

Are these A/C brackets rare?

 

[Delancy]

Are these A/C brackets rare?

I don't think so. They'd be common on every 3FE equipped 62/80, which is quite a few.

Still available new, too.

But the only way I can configure PS, AC, alternator, so gotta make it work.

 

[J Mack]

I know how you like everything to look like it came from Toyota and if a guy cut two of them long and weld them back together in the section above the bottom mounting area it would look like a factory part just longer. The issue is I don’t know how everything mounts so I’m blindly looking at what you have.

 

[Delancy]

Going to get better pics shortly.

Besides it being cast (assuming not weld-able), because it's 2" too short, on an angle, it doesn't line back up with the bolt holes, anyway.

I'd be curious to know of the bracket attached only at the top, would seriously be a concern for cracking, if not bolted at the motor mount, too.

 

[Delancy]

I don't have the luxury of moving the Power sterring to the DS, due to clearances with the manifolds, but also lack the holes in the block to mount to.

Can be figured out, but kinda sucks having to cobble it.

Had I been thinking, I'd have had the block threaded on the DS when it was being bored, for the PS pump, since the clearance issues weren't as tight as I thought.

If all else fails, have an early PS AC motor mount, that has the large flat base for a Sanden or York style compressor, but not giving up on this yet.

Just need a spacer of some sort or method, and think it'll be ok.

 

[J Mack]

Welding cast is not an issue nor would correcting the angle. It looks like it would take some measuring to get it right but if you find the right guy and depending where everything mounts making a longer factory appearing mount seems completely feasible. If you didn’t care about making it look factory you could just cut it in half in a noncritical area and bolt each section where it goes and weld a hunk of steel in the middle.



Again basing my opinion purely on the photos you given me to look at so far.

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

don't let the thing dangle off the top bolts; it will break. the threaded hole at the front of the mount is for the idler pully bracket to bolt to. Pablo, I'll keep my eyes out for a spare brac. do you need it to be for the 62 engine or the 80 engine? there are different bracs for each even tho they are both 3F(e). the 80 mount will not bolt the 62 compressor to, and the upper and lower have to be a matched set- the 62 PS brac will not accept the 80 series comp bracket and vise versa...if you can find someone who can weld cast(must be pre-heated and post heated for a long slow cool down...) then the cut 2 bracs and merry them would be a clean fix. fyi, the fj62 ps pump brac will accept the 80 series pump, just without one bolt. it all boils down to which gear you have; that dictates which bracket to use...hth

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

Welding cast is not an issue nor would correcting the angle. It looks like it would take some measuring to get it right but if you find the right guy and depending where everything mounts making a longer factory appearing mount seems completely feasible. If you didn’t care about making it look factory you could just cut it in half in a noncritical area and bolt each section where it goes and weld a hunk of steel in the middle.



Again basing my opinion purely on the photos you given me to look at so far.

cutting the ac brac in two is only going to work if you can cut it above the 4 ac comp mount bolts; otherwise they won't line up with the holes in the comp

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

have a couple of slugs machined with some ears at the upper end taking off to mate to the base of the ac brac with correct angle. bare holes in them for a couple of short bolts to go thru and up into the threaded base of the ac brac. at the base of the slugs, have them cut to match the angle of the bosses on the motor mount and drill and tap holes into the slug to accept a short bolt thru the motor mount into the bottom of the slug. paint it black, drink a beer. mild steel would be fine. some 1.25" round stock and some 3/8" flat stock for the ears and maybe to merry the 2 slugs together...

 

[Delancy]

Forgot about the idler....dunno if I was thinking it'd be utilized or the late 2F would, where the smog pump was....

In retrospect, it'd have been better to have addressed at the motor mount, better defined as "less noticeable it was jerry rigged".

Bunch of good suggestions. If possible, may try to stretch the bracket for appearances sake, if I can source another quickly.

At the point where the plans are falling apart, and the process of adjustment has revealed less than desirable fixes, but at a point where I'm less rigid, simply due to the time invested.

 

[Delancy]

I appreciate purism.

That said, and mark my words, all future vintage Cruisers will be running 1FZ-FEs.....at least an I6 and Cruiser.

For the time and money invested in this, which I don't regret, I could've had a refreshed
1FZ-FE/H151F/HF1A, 60 axles, and a little money to spare.

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

welcome to the board I knew you'd come around

 

[PabloCruise]

I appreciate purism.

That said, and mark my words, all future vintage Cruisers will be running 1FZ-FEs.....at least an I6 and Cruiser.

For the time and money invested in this, which I don't regret, I could've had a refreshed
1FZ-FE/H151F/HF1A, 60 axles, and a little money to spare.

Just don't say "I could've had a V-8!"

 

[PabloCruise]

cutting the ac brac in two is only going to work if you can cut it above the 4 ac comp mount bolts; otherwise they won't line up with the holes in the comp

I was thinking that might be the case. Chris' photos did not show all 4 bolt holes for the actual compressor...

 

[PabloCruise]

don't let the thing dangle off the top bolts; it will break. the threaded hole at the front of the mount is for the idler pully bracket to bolt to. Pablo, I'll keep my eyes out for a spare brac. do you need it to be for the 62 engine or the 80 engine? there are different bracs for each even tho they are both 3F(e). the 80 mount will not bolt the 62 compressor to, and the upper and lower have to be a matched set- the 62 PS brac will not accept the 80 series comp bracket and vise versa...if you can find someone who can weld cast(must be pre-heated and post heated for a long slow cool down...) then the cut 2 bracs and merry them would be a clean fix. fyi, the fj62 ps pump brac will accept the 80 series pump, just without one bolt. it all boils down to which gear you have; that dictates which bracket to use...hth

That helps more than you know! Thanks!
Now I really need to go look at my 3FE, b/c I have the idler puller/tensioner mounted, but no AC bracket. So how the hell did I pull that off?
I would be much obliged if you would keep an eye out for an AC bracket for me. My 3FE is out of a '88 62. I hope that means that the PS pump brackets did too!
I did not know that about the PS for 62 and 80 both mounting up, good to know!
I was looking at my 3FE last night (and noticed the idler pulley) and was thinking that the lower rad hose is just barely going to fit under an AC bracket! Things will get crowded pretty quickly over there w/ a compressor, and AC lines...

 

[Delancy]

Just don't say "I could've had a V-8!"

I may utter those words some day, but it'd be of a UZ variety, don't worry.

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

IIRC the idler brac bolts to the motor mount and the water pump bolts...I think the pigs bay would better serve the pump a bit higher than lower...