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The OEM Non-US carb is what I was originally referencing, so that’s good feedback.
@cruisermatt @roadstr6 ok, please educate me of the dizzy… I was looking at part 19100-61180, the non-US dizzy. It’s just pictures without anything else to help reference the actual size. Is it not just the US dizzy minus the smog add-ons? Also, what’s the advantage of a “large cap” dizzy over the alternative. I’m still at the basic level of understanding on distributors.
There are no "smog add-ons" with regard to the large cap distributor. It has two vacuum ports, the inner one is for the typical vacuum advance mechanism sourcing vacuum from the carb base, and the outer one for the high altitude compensation circuit. You may choose not to use the HAC or delete it as part of your de-smog (I did). Removing the HAC just means you won't need to use the outer diaphram port on the distributor.

What is "smog" about the big cap distributor is the built-in advance curve. The distributor uses a system of weights and springs inside that, when spinning with rpm, advances the spark timing. The weights and springs Mr. T put in that unit were chosen based on smog equipment on the engine being intact. Once the smog stuff is removed from the engine, the distributor will advance timing too quickly and too far for a desmogged engine, causing detonation (pinging). Hence the need for a recurve. The recurve generally consists of changing the springs and /or weights to slow down the vacuum advance. Some folks choose not to recurve and instead use only the outer HAC port for their advance. This works okay because the outer port only allows 2-3 degrees of advance. Other folks will use the inner port, but decrease the initial timing of their engine, so that the pinging goes away. I am a fan of recurving the distributor as opposed to doing one of the work-arounds. I've tried them all, I just think the truck performs best with a recurve.
 
There are no "smog add-ons" with regard to the large cap distributor. It has two vacuum ports, the inner one is for the typical vacuum advance mechanism sourcing vacuum from the carb base, and the outer one for the high altitude compensation circuit. You may choose not to use the HAC or delete it as part of your de-smog (I did). Removing the HAC just means you won't need to use the outer diaphram port on the distributor.

What is "smog" about the big cap distributor is the built-in advance curve. The distributor uses a system of weights and springs inside that, when spinning with rpm, advances the spark timing. The weights and springs Mr. T put in that unit were chosen based on smog equipment on the engine being intact. Once the smog stuff is removed from the engine, the distributor will advance timing too quickly and too far for a desmogged engine, causing detonation (pinging). Hence the need for a recurve. The recurve generally consists of changing the springs and /or weights to slow down the vacuum advance. Some folks choose not to recurve and instead use only the outer HAC port for their advance. This works okay because the outer port only allows 2-3 degrees of advance. Other folks will use the inner port, but decrease the initial timing of their engine, so that the pinging goes away. I am a fan of recurving the distributor as opposed to doing one of the work-arounds. I've tried them all, I just think the truck performs best with a recurve.

Ok, thanks for the info. With a better understanding of things now I'd agree and prefer to go with the "proper" solution of the recurve. Follow-up question then...what are people doing once the vacuum diaphragm on the stock dizzy goes? I'm on my second dizzy now because the original's diaphram went out last year. I remember spending a lot of time looking for a replacement. I came to the conclusion that that little piece of rubber is at the top of the unobtanium list.
 
@4Cruisers used to have some replacement diaphrams that he fabbed up using another obtainable Toyota vacuum pot from a Cressida or some other old Toyota and a modified lever. I purchased several of them from him years ago and stashed them away. He may be able to help you out, or at least point you to someone who can.
 

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