Cuiser 9" vs 8" high pinion strength
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Yeah, but I've got a 40 axle just sittin around. Couldn't you just move the pads on it?
The springs are out 1" each side, so would the steering arms hit? If it's just a tire issue IFS rotors and hubs will give an 1"1/2 each side. Plus my wheels are 1"1/2 backspaced.
Some not very good ones, this 80 series.
The 2 PCD's that are close together are toyota 9.5 and H233, you will just need a spacer to keep the axle centerline (face depth - toy 42.5mm, 9" 42.55mm, H233 50mm)
The other PCD is ford 9''
You dont need to machine Toyota sides into a Patrol locker anymore to make Toyota axles fit. It seems now you can fit a regular RD136 airlocker and the new unified sizing means that you can just drop in the Toyota sides (ARB # 728H111) and it will work. Very nice! If it works well then I'll HP the rear also.
The hi pinion diff being used in a rear configuration.
That would be the non-elocked version by the aussie locker, so from a 91-92?
You musta been wheeling it pretty hard. I got some auto-lockers with my 80 and ended up selling them instead of putting them in. Looking at your pics I think that may have been a good idea. I suspect I might have an easier time getting into trouble on 37's and the cummins, then I would on 31's witha 3FE..
Non E-locked versions are still being built to present day.
I remember a local Mini guy saying he installed a thrust block on his HP 8". A machined block that is a mm or so away from the ring gear, opposite of the pinion, which all but eliminates deflection. Deflection is what causes the ring gear to shave off teeth. Says he hasn't blown a diff since, and has installed a small block.
Example: http://www.truehi9.com/thrustblock2.html
Example: http://www.truehi9.com/thrustblock2.html
There was pics of a bolt added into the third of a diff used on a build with the diamond axles, cant remember who off the top of my head, maybe metal tech...
Thrust block, very cool. I have never heard of that before. Cool!
That would be the non-elocked version by the aussie locker, so from a 91-92?
You musta been wheeling it pretty hard. I got some auto-lockers with my 80 and ended up selling them instead of putting them in. Looking at your pics I think that may have been a good idea. I suspect I might have an easier time getting into trouble on 37's and the cummins, then I would on 31's witha 3FE..
Yea was wheelin out of a river bed , the ute is a 2000. I wish I had a factory e lock
, the lunch box locker has never caused any dramas in my cruisers for the locker side of things, I had a fj75 with the big front diff that had a lunch box locker as well never had any diff problems with it but was for ever smashing cv's, now with the small front diff in the ute I have atm , I have a clicking cv for ages and it hasn't broken so far well i blew the gears before the cv,I'm now running 35s and haven't had any dramas since . Strange maybe just a bad diff batch
coulda been bad heat tempering or porosity in the steel of the ring gear??
Im curious now about how much stronger the e-locked version is versus the non e-elocked. And what it is that makes a difference between the two.
I think if I have the diffs apart again, I will look into how hard it would be to add a "thrust block" in. But then I may just be transferring the "weak link" to somewhere else...
Im curious now about how much stronger the e-locked version is versus the non e-elocked. And what it is that makes a difference between the two.
I think if I have the diffs apart again, I will look into how hard it would be to add a "thrust block" in. But then I may just be transferring the "weak link" to somewhere else...
The big difference in the e-locked diff versus open diff, as I understand it, is the carrier. The carrier with an e-locked diff is machined steel, in addition to being larger overall, versus the non-elocked carrier which is cast. I would imagine that the carrier is stiffer with the e-locker diff, possibly eliminating, or at least reducing, ring gear deflection under load.
Thoughts?
I just picked up this" 4x4 garage toyota edition" magazine. It has some pics of Ben Swains (w/ Slee Off road)axles on his rig. It mentions that he modded a 9.5" rear to accomodate 1.5" 35 spline (sounds like D60*HD*) shafts for the rear. I sent an email to ARB asking if they could swap side gears to run this size of shafts, and they basically said they could only go to a different spline.
Anyone know a little more about what was done and what can be done to go to larger rear shafts, maybe only the E-locker rear third has room for bigger side gears?
This is what I mentioned earlier about the diamond axles, I thouhgt it was someone else's though.
Anyone know a little more about what was done and what can be done to go to larger rear shafts, maybe only the E-locker rear third has room for bigger side gears?
This is what I mentioned earlier about the diamond axles, I thouhgt it was someone else's though.
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Interesting, the "change in spline count" IS making a 1.5" 35 spline axle shaft fit in a cruiser carrier. And it has already been done.
D60 rears are only 30 spline BTW. D70 rears are 35 spline (and D60 HD theoretically/sometimes apparently)
D60 rears are only 30 spline BTW. D70 rears are 35 spline (and D60 HD theoretically/sometimes apparently)
Ya D60 HD sorry, I was looking at the arbusa application guide:
Front 1977-90 Dana 60HD 38.1 (1.50") 35
http://arb.com.au/media/products/air-lockers/application_chart.pdf
The article does in fact say 1.5" 35 spline shafts in the rear.
can you elaborate on how and on what carrier it has been done?
Is it a matter of mixing parts or is it sending off parts for machine work?
Im not sure exactly what you are saying.
Edit: just for reference from arb's site:
LandCruiser 40, 55, 60,62, 70, 73, 74, 75 &80 Series,Lexus LX450
Front To 1989 12 bolt, full floating 33 (1.31") 30 RD1421
1990-97 10 bolt, full floating 33 (1.31") 30 RD132
Rear
1969-76 12 bolt, semi floating, 45mm bearing ID 33 (1.31") 30 RD1531
1977-89 12 bolt, full floating, 45mm bearing ID 33 (1.31") 30 RD1421
1990-97 12 bolt, full floating, 50mm bearing ID 33 (1.31") 30 RD1421
1977-92 12 bolt, semi floating, 50mm bearing ID 33 (1.31") 30 RD153
Oh, and the fords D60's (not HD) were 1.5" and 35 spline on f350 front 86+, rear 88+ and 00-01's according to ARB's site.
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