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@SHREDwagon What are you showing in those pics? I think I can see an empty mount for the catch can
 
SS line tapped into valve cover - front of oil filler cap. That line goes to the filter linked, then returns to motor. Yes, acts as a bypass filter, but would also seem to decrease the amount of oil exiting baffle. Eliminating the need for a catch can within reason. Common on 3 turbo HZ's I've seen from Europe while travelling.

I can only comment that they were all higher mileage and had no smoke issues that I saw. Unlike me (!) with a Provent. After a turbo rebuild btw.
 
I see it now, looks like a banjo fitting to stainless flex line. Do you have any photos showing how the downstream end of this line terminates?
 
I would like to avoid that for a few reasons.

1) I want to keep an eye on how much oil is being pushed out so a catch would be the best way to measure oil loss and blow by regularly

2) I want to be able to check the health of the turbo by looking in the intake. If I have two sources of oil that could coat the intake it will not be as indicative of one problem or another.

3) from what I have heard coating the intake and valves with oil can create performance loss due to fouling of injectors and valves.

K
Harldly worth worrying about. The injectors and valves wont be affected. The heat burns it off .It would have to be pumping some sreious amounts of oil into the engine to foul the injectors or valves, the smoke out the exhaust would be horrendous.
Any time you want inspect the blow by ,you just pull the hose and have a look.
 
I have a Provent sitting on the self as well (along with a bunch of other cool things...like a G Turbo) and am curious with peoples experience with catch cans in the 1HD-T 1HZ family line.

Shred...did you have the Provent hooked up as intended, or changed like Dugal did: https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/provent-200-question.588697/

Thanks
gb
 
Hey Greg - As per the manufacturers rec's with 7/8" hose. Tip: used 1" l x 5/8" hose pieces as a reducer at both ends - then sleeved by the 7/8". Works real slick.

I was unaware of any other install method and, for the price, don't think it should require modification. I mean, a soup can and a dish scrubber will do the trick. The PRV was the original selling feature for me. Especially when frozen. But, I'm still getting blowby so it didn't work out for me. Hope you have better luck.
 
So we haven't heard from @gbentink yet about using a catch can, but all of this info is great!

Does anyone have a good suggestion for an inexpensive one to just put inline to my hose that vents to atmosphere?
 
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Bumping this, can anyone post pics of their installs in 1HD-T/1HZ applications?
 
If you can find one, the stock Isuzu 4BD2tc catch can has worked well on the engine I swapped into my 60. It's small, uses 3/4" hose, drains collected oil to sump and vents to the atmosphere. Lot's of these trucks and engines around, maybe a truck bone yard near you?

The CC is the black rectangular plastic piece. It;s about 4.5" W X 2.5" D X 3.5" H

Sorry, best pictures I have.

Just an idea.

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Here is another option...originally posted by @dirtyboots, which looks a lot like the HPD one at half the cost here in the US. They also make larger ones, have an option for a drain, large inlets/outlets, etc.

HDJ81 - HP Diesel Series 2 Intercooler Install & Review

Great section on the manufacturer's website explaining the different catch-can setups.

Blog Post Catch Cans 101

Edit - is anyone running a dual-can setup with their rig? 3/4" or 5/8" hose inlets/outlets for the 1HD-T and -FT?
 
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I believe it lines up right to one of the existing bolt holes along the firewall above where the clutch master would be
 
I have my provent for 4 months now and I'm so far happy with the performance .. I didn't drain it back to the pan ( just the idea seems horrible to me ) and I've been close monitoring the amount of oil build / catch on a long hose I attach to the can .. so far nothing more than few drops to worry about ( mine wasn't bad to start with ) I'll snap some pic of my installation . ..
 
Bumping this thread. I got a new PDI airbox and, for the last week, I routed my breather back into my intake. (because there was a port there and I didn't have a plug) Today, I plugged the port on the intake and routed the vent hose to atmosphere. I noticed that intermediate spool and power wasn't quite as good as before. (maybe a coincidence?) So now, I'm considering getting a catch can and routing the outlet back into the intake. Are there any advised setups, since this thread was originally posted?

Here's one I found:

 
So I read the other thread and was interested to find @tweeek mention that bypassing his catch can and venting to atmosphere decreased his oil consumption. Can anyone else elaborate on that?

Also, has anyone else found that mid range power and turbo spool are affected by running the vent to atmosphere? I might try to reattach it today and see if it really makes a difference on my rig.
 
So I read the other thread and was interested to find @tweeek mention that bypassing his catch can and venting to atmosphere decreased his oil consumption. Can anyone else elaborate on that?

Also, has anyone else found that mid range power and turbo spool are affected by running the vent to atmosphere? I might try to reattach it today and see if it really makes a difference on my rig.

I vent mine to atmosphere, the only difference I've noted is the oil weeping from my turbo stopped.

You've made a bunch of recent changes to your setup, I'm guessing the responsiveness difference is all in your head rather than related to where the vent hose is routed.
 
You've made a bunch of recent changes to your setup, I'm guessing the responsiveness difference is all in your head rather than related to where the vent hose is routed.

I'd suspect the same. I can't see how pulling blow by from the crank case would have any affect on the way the turbo runs. I've had mine vent to air for a long time. I run 10,000 km oil change intervals. Oil level starts at full and by the time I change the level is half way between full and low. Just under 300,000 kms on the odo.

Also, since I have a FMIC, I don't want to have any chance of having oil collect in the FMIC and be a potential source for a runaway in the event that oil collected in there. It's at the low point for the air intake system and since it cools, any oil vapours in the intake could have the potential to condense and fall out like the catch can...Maybe not a risk or low risk, but by not having PCV connected to my intake I mitigate the risk.
 
I'll run my standard route, going up to the cabin tomorrow and really compare. I don't know why... it just seems to feel better with the vent routed back into the intake. Probably placebo, like you guys said. I hope that it is too because it would save me the cost of a catch can. But, I'll report back what I see tomorrow.
 

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