BlackStone Engine and Gear Oil Report (should I be worried?)

[98 SNAKE EATER]

A few days ago, I sent BS an Engine oil sample as well as a Gear oil sample from the front diff....



Engine oil used was Toyota Genuine 10w-30 (non-synthetic)

I usually change the oil @ 3,000 religiously, but for this sample, I stretched it out to 4,500...

I was also harder on the rig than usual with multiple full throttle stoplight sprints and longer idle times in the hot Florida sun

My main concern of course was coolant contamination and after the results came back with high sodium, I'm not really sure what to think

Gear oil used was Valvoline 80w-90 (non-synthetic)

The sample was taken @ 10,500 miles since the last change...

Main concern for this sample was of course birf grease contamination...

Again, I'm a bit confused with the results

So far, I'm not experiencing any problems whatsoever

Engine runs great, idles smooth, exhaust is clear with no harsh odor....

Front diff oil looked clean and both grease cavities looked free of gear oil (used a small metal rod as a dipstick)



Anyone else have similar results?

 

[cary]

Everything looks fine. Once again, we have support that the 80 is very easy on engine oil and that even 5000 mile intervals are easily done on mineral oil.

For the money, I would pass on the Toyota oil and if you insist on using a 10w-30, use any good quality mineral that will be cheaper and every bit as good (preference for Chevron).

 

[96r50]

Just a note, you said the axle oil was run for 10,500 miles, their sheet says the same interval as the engine oil (4500). Maybe they goofed on the timeline?

 

[Ting]

cary - why is sodium so high? Coolant???

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

Just a note, you said the axle oil was run for 10,500 miles, their sheet says the same interval as the engine oil (4500). Maybe they goofed on the timeline?

They goofed


I wrote the mileage interval down clearly on the bottle and also printed up a sheet in wordpad in case they couldn't read my handwriting

 

[cary]

Part of the oil additive package, used in some newer oils.

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

Part of the oil additive package, used in some newer oils.

This is what I'm hoping for


I'm gunna do as they say and switch to another brand for the next change and retest, but how do I know which brand doesn't have a sodium additive



Also, what do you guys think of the gear oil results?

 

[Hayes]

I would think that even an insignificant, invisible infiltration from the knuckle would show up on the Blackstone...

?

 

[Ting]

This is what I'm hoping for


I'm gunna do as they say and switch to another brand for the next change and retest, but how do I know which brand doesn't have a sodium additive



Also, what do you guys think of the gear oil results?

They said it from their report that send them "virgin sample oil" to them for no charge. Do you have some left over that you can send them? Let us know.

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

They said it from their report that send them "virgin sample oil" to them for no charge. Do you have some left over that you can send them? Let us know.

I have an extra bottle and will be sending in a sample

 

[MoJ]

Save yourself some worry....

When I was using Toyota oil and sent in a sample I got the same results with the sodium. If you're thinking HG don't worry about it --- my original HG looked perfect when it was removed.

Here's the thread from my Toyota brand oil analysis

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=86124&highlight=oil

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

Save yourself some worry....

When I was using Toyota oil and sent in a sample I got the same results with the sodium. If you're thinking HG don't worry about it --- my original HG looked perfect when it was removed.

Here's the thread from my Toyota brand oil analysis

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=86124&highlight=oil

Wow

That's a relief

Happen to have a pic of your report? (I got a red x in that thread)

 

[MoJ]

Wow

That's a relief

Happen to have a pic of your report? (I got a red x in that thread)

...I believe the oil actually was a 5w/30 rather than 10w/30

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

...I believe the oil actually was a 5w/30 rather than 10w/30

Hmm, 62 vs my 218


Could that be due to the different weight or should I be worried







Rick <------got HG on the brain

 

[Ting]

Hmm, 62 vs my 218


Could that be due to the different weight or should I be worried







Rick <------got HG on the brain

Send the virgin one, and report back to us. Did you try bubble test?

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

Well, I sent in virgin samples of both oils on Monday and just got the results (that was pretty damn fast lol)


I've got good news and possible bad news




Good News:

Possible Bad News:

Now the reason I say possible is because Molybdenum was found in the first sample that was mixed with previous oil that could possibly have a Molybdenum additive (or so I hope)....


I still don't see any traces of mixing, so I'm not too worried about it

 

[e9999]

a bit of grease in your front diff oil is no big deal, no worries....

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

Yeah, I guess I'm just a bit anal about oil


When I send in my next sample, we'll see if the moly numbers drop...

 

[MoJ]

Thanks for taking the time to follow up with the Toy brand engine oil, re: sodium.

 

[98 SNAKE EATER]

Just got my second report back

This time, I stretched the interval out to 5,500 miles, driving her extremely hard with much longer idle times

Because of this, I had to use 1 quart of make-up oil (1/5 bottle for each 1k miles)