Ouch!
OK, leaves that out for most, although when compared to what MAF wants, looks like a bargain.
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Ouch!
OK, leaves that out for most, although when compared to what MAF wants, looks like a bargain.
FWIW, the OEM tank is 15-gals and is a good compromise between size, good ground clearance and fuel weight. This gives you 40-gals and a range of about 500 miles assuming 12.5 mpg. Also, the weight is cantilevered behind the axle and is very noticeable when loaded. On difficult trails, I pump as much fuel forward as possible to keep the tail from dragging more than usual.
This one looks like a good candidate to me. Now we need a guinea pig. I wish it was not October in Canada.
Akella,
Yeah, not the best time of year to start a project like this for those of us who live where winter is still semi-real.;p
Keep in mind that I made my measurements of available space with that phat spare hanging from the OEM tire crank. They should be verified before buying or cutting anything. I think once the tire carrier is pulled things are pretty clear, but I'm going by memory on that.
Yeah, not the best time of year to start a project like this for those of us who live where winter is still semi-real.;p
Keep in mind that I made my measurements of available space with that phat spare hanging from the OEM tire crank. They should be verified before buying or cutting anything. I think once the tire carrier is pulled things are pretty clear, but I'm going by memory on that.
I have been following this thread for a bit. I eventually want a additional fuel without jerry can as my only option.
Check out these tanks...
http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=148/home_id=143/mode=cat/cat148.htm
Check out these tanks...
http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/category_id=148/home_id=143/mode=cat/cat148.htm
Stu,
Yes, nice generic tanks and reasonable pricing. The poly tank option may suit some, too, especially in high salt areas.
Also prominently displayed on their site is an interesting reminder on how some manufacturers cheap out by not providing a pickup tube, thus using a bottom mount pickup, which it notes is a violation of federal regulations. Saying that not to take a side on this issue -- I know what side I pick -- but just to point out how you'll need to do that on your own, as few businesses will be willing to go out on a limb for you by knowingly assisting you in doing so.
I do know that I used to have a couple of 55 gallons transfer tanks with bottom mount "drains" that were noted as not legal for highway use. So you may be able to find the tank that is set up to do this, just don't assume it amounts to legal "permission" to tap your go juice from there.
Yes, nice generic tanks and reasonable pricing. The poly tank option may suit some, too, especially in high salt areas.
Also prominently displayed on their site is an interesting reminder on how some manufacturers cheap out by not providing a pickup tube, thus using a bottom mount pickup, which it notes is a violation of federal regulations. Saying that not to take a side on this issue -- I know what side I pick -- but just to point out how you'll need to do that on your own, as few businesses will be willing to go out on a limb for you by knowingly assisting you in doing so.
I do know that I used to have a couple of 55 gallons transfer tanks with bottom mount "drains" that were noted as not legal for highway use. So you may be able to find the tank that is set up to do this, just don't assume it amounts to legal "permission" to tap your go juice from there.
Thanks Mike..... very good points.
I like the U3:
Overall Size: 11-1/2" x 11-1/2" x 34"
16 Gallon Capacity
Fully Baffled Fuel Tank
3/8" ID Internal Pickup Tube
Rollover Vent Valve
Mounting Brackets
Bolt-On Neck
Billet Cap w/O-ring Seal
Accepts All Aftermarket Sending Units
such as Classic, Sun SW, VDO, etc.
Made from Galvanneal Steel. Coated at the
Steel Mill for Maximum Rust Protection
Primer Painted
I like the U3:
Overall Size: 11-1/2" x 11-1/2" x 34"
16 Gallon Capacity
Fully Baffled Fuel Tank
3/8" ID Internal Pickup Tube
Rollover Vent Valve
Mounting Brackets
Bolt-On Neck
Billet Cap w/O-ring Seal
Accepts All Aftermarket Sending Units
such as Classic, Sun SW, VDO, etc.
Made from Galvanneal Steel. Coated at the
Steel Mill for Maximum Rust Protection
Primer Painted
Stu,
speaking for myself, a 16 gallon may not satisfy your needs, just like it's not doing it for me. Granted, it's still better than carry three jerry cans but when I go out in the bush, I wish I had a second 25 gallon tank! YMMV of course.
speaking for myself, a 16 gallon may not satisfy your needs, just like it's not doing it for me. Granted, it's still better than carry three jerry cans but when I go out in the bush, I wish I had a second 25 gallon tank! YMMV of course.
This one looks like a good candidate to me. Now we need a guinea pig. I wish it was not October in Canada.
I maybe intrested in trying that one as well. I still have some good weather out west, going to take a tape to the back of mine when I get back home this weekend. I have already removed the spare tire lift and support. I do have a custom rear bymper that takes away a bit of room.
This one looks like a good candidate to me. Now we need a guinea pig. I wish it was not October in Canada.
The OEM aux tank is about ~10"x20"x40". It basically fills the full width and length between the frame rails with enough gap (1" or so) to prevent any rubbing.
I want to note that I omitted a number of tanks that were close to the 40" frame width in going through the ones I extracted last evening. Now that I understand better the dimensions of the OEM tank, it might be worth browsing those tanks again for a, ahem, tighter fit.
My concern with tanks near the extreme width that fits between the rails is getting the mounting to work and having access room to attach fittings, hose, wires, whatever. On the other hand, that's where you can gain capacity versus a smaller, easier to mount tank. It's a little difficult short of getting a tank and trying to fit it to say exactly what gives you the biggest bang for the buck without being a PITA to mount properly.
Looks to me like the Toyota subtank mounts on brackets or attaches directly to the frame. IMO, that beats straps, which many tanks use, although I can see going either way personally. Having a tank the closely fits against the frame rails does facilitate using brackets instead of straps.
It also looks like the Toyota subtank mounts towards the rear x-member? This leaves space between the axle and front of the tank and reduces capacity somewhat, but simplifies tank construction and mounting. Several of the tanks I cited as candidates yesterday actually looked like they can utilize some of that space by already having a "notch" out of that corner of the tank (right front of space where exhaust is routed through at an angle on the 80), probably to similarly clear the exhaust in the original application. These will generally also be the higher capacity tanks.
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Anyone with a 4x4labs bumper remember that an OEM aux tank won't fit.
I would not say it will not fit but that it would be a challenge. I had a long range tank an removed it and now have a 4X4 bumper, I am speaking from memory only.
Perhaps some modification to the bracketry on the tank for a skilled person...
Perhaps some modification to the bracketry on the tank for a skilled person...
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I just got home and went and measured my truck. With the amount you cut out of the rear frame, the exhaust would get in the way. No I suppose I shouldn't say it will not fit, but it would have to either hangdown below the exhaust or the exhaust would need to be rerouted.
The more and more I look at this it seems like the OEM subtank is fine for a diesel powered truck. Seems to avoid a lot of hassle and I can't think of a situation where I'll need more than it offers.
I know that a local has the same exact setup: 4x4 lab + oem aux tank so I'm guessing pretty much plan N play.