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My local L dealer can get them in a few days (supposedly) but they want $38 each. Ouch.
Another 2013 head gasket goes kaput
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Unfortunately no F badge for me. Per Bell Lexus 14 of those are in SW region and two are in NY. Looks like I'd be able to get 3UR valves from Japan more quickly. Plus I'd be cutting the inventory really close and there's a chance someone doesn't have what they think they do..
I should have looked first. MSRP is $26.93 for 13715-31140 3UR and unfortunately $35.08 for the 13715-38080 2UR GSE. They were to be had for under $20 a valve when I purchased them last. Mid $20’s now with discount.
This is a fascinating read @bloc. I wish I had the time, energy, knowledge, tools …. To do the same to mine. Instead, my 2014 570 is at the shop having the head gasket replaced. My failure was on cylinder 4. I don’t recall it overheating, but I guess I will find out soon enough. $7k to replace both sides. Rebuilt motor would take 6-8 weeks and like cost $18k or more. What else should I ask the mechanic to do while he has the motor apart?
how many miles?
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Really sorry to hear that.. as I go through this and talk to other owners it is confirming something of a feeling that Toyota has been making some unforced errors in the past decade and a half. Still *overall* the “highest quality” vehicles someone can buy, but the march toward complexity (ex: V35A) and imo dumb chemical incompatibility issues like these head gaskets just seem a bit foreign to how I understood their vehicles to be developed for many, many years. I have told about ten friends/family with newer Toyota products to cut Toyota’s coolant change recs in half. And absolutely do not forget about them. Most of those people are surprised but don’t question my authority on that.
Rex is headed the right direction with the mileage question. Quite a lot of the stuff I am replacing could easily go another 100k without complaint, but I had the opportunity to make this a no question 400 or 500k mile engine, so I took it. I have kept this vehicle over twice my average car ownership time, and I can’t see getting rid of it anytime soon.
206k
Between this and the transmission failures - proven to have more serious mechanical issues than its 100 series predecessor. Long live the 2UZ and a750f
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Interesting yours is a 2014.. those supposedly got an updated head gasket part number.
This is what I got from a toyota tech that I believe knows what they are talking about: "Regarding what to replace while you have it apart— valve springs are likely just fine, but I’d replace all tensioners and all the guides. The chain is up to you. Replace any gasket or seal you come across. No worries on the phaser/gears unless you see something concerning."
They also said to do the valley plate with the updated FIPG if there are any leaks.. I'd consider doing it even if it isn't leaking, if it hasn't been done already. Most of these eventually fail.
One, sorry for the engine woes, zero fun. Hindsight being 20/20, I would have potentially done a preemptive head gasket job when I went overkill with my chain tensioner job but alas. Two, there’s at least 3 or 4 MY2014 trucks on here with head gasket issues. So while there’s the updated part I’m leery of what that exactly means and when that part number was adopted by the production line since many MY2014 would have been assembled in 2013.
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Great point
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Well here’s a twist: my parts source in Japan says even they may be out. Based on his read of the inventory report Toyota would have to make valves to meet his order.
ISF parts cost is starting to become justified… will need to make a decision today.
ISF parts cost is starting to become justified… will need to make a decision today.
@OGBeno any insider info?
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I just decided to pull the trigger on IS-F valves. To expedite things I have two coming from New York and fourteen coming from Arizona. This should save me over a week.. "should".
Did you order the F-Sport badge to go along with them?
It’s very odd that such a common engine would have the valves on a long backorder.
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Haven’t ordered F stuff yet but I’ll come up with something I find fitting.
I spoke with a very helpful guy at Serra a few days before placing the order and he said they showed at least 16 available quickly.. I guess it’s possible someone else nabbed them before I could. Yes a little odd getting more would take so long but.. this is where we are.
Part of why I decided to jump on the -F parts was a conversation with one of the parts counter guys in the northeast I spoke with this morning. He said I can be pretty content in the distribution system inventory numbers of these valves because so few people would be looking for them. In all likelihood they have done multiple inventory checks since any significant number were sold.. but again, we’ll see. A lot has happened that I would consider unlikely since this all started.
DO IT. Dare ya.
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Trying to make sure I don't mess up the valve seal locations.. the seals were all just tossed into the larger overhaul gasket kit, no individual numbers.
Consult the FSM right? It is pretty confusing here.
These are the two different seals in the kit:
This is what the FSM says:
I'm leaning toward the gray top being the intake side..
@GrouchyTech @bjowett or someone else with experience building these heads.. any input?
Consult the FSM right? It is pretty confusing here.
These are the two different seals in the kit:
This is what the FSM says:
I'm leaning toward the gray top being the intake side..
@GrouchyTech @bjowett or someone else with experience building these heads.. any input?
Exhaust is on the left, intake on the right in your photo. The “bronze-ish” color of the metal portion indicates the intake seal.
That’s very generous. I couldn’t even manage to wear a matching pair of socks today.
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