I just wish the coastal bumper replaced the whole rear bumper instead of keeping the top plastic part. Can’t stand that look. Will probably be going with the 4x4labs when it comes time to get a bumper.
ACC Rear Door Tire Mount
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Not so sure the MT design is better than a combo of Becky and a mountain passes solution. From what I am seen and heard...
Last I checked w/ Mountain Passes, he requires the GX in-person to build from. Not really an option unless you live in Colorado.
To each their own. Its your money, spend it how you see fit. I have an Aluminum rear bumper on order, no swingout and yes the AL design is gonna cost me more. I am continuing to monitor the early adopters to the Becky and if all goes well I will probably pull the trigger on one next year. Its fits what I want in my build.
Dibs on your storage setup
LOL! I am keeping it. I will just make another drawer for that space.Dibs on your storage setup
Just me, but selling 60 at $500 is still better money than selling 20 at $1000......and I really believe that's a realistic ratio of the number of people who believe $1,000 is too much for this design. It's a great design and it seems to work, but it's just too expensive for what it is.
Granted, I'm not the one who designed it; I'm not the one who's selling it. They can decide - and have decided - how to handle that. I'm just offering a puzzled observation, based on comments in this thread.....
Granted, I'm not the one who designed it; I'm not the one who's selling it. They can decide - and have decided - how to handle that. I'm just offering a puzzled observation, based on comments in this thread.....
You're assuming you made money on 60 at $500. Thats a lot of labor, material, and powder coat cost. Is what it is! If they make money on $1000 and sell fewer, but make money every time....it's not all they make. Se la vie!
Sure looks like a lot less labor, material and powder coat costs than all the companies charging $1000 for a front bumper. Guess all those companies aren’t turning a profit.
Lets keep in mind that the "competition" price is slowly creeping up as they figure a more solid design. All of which was done and tested by ACC prior to release.
Competition is good to help balance out supply and demand. We will just have to wait and see how it shakes out.
Competition is good to help balance out supply and demand. We will just have to wait and see how it shakes out.
Desperately google searching for a front bumper that is 100% complete and powder coated for only $1000 brand new. Can you hook a brother up with a link?
^^^ you wont find a GX470 bumper for $1000 that's powder coated but that's because it's for a GX470. Look at Jeep XJ bumpers and you'll find the same amount of design, steel and powder coat and you find countless options.
The market for aftermarket options drive the prices for these vehicles.
Don't for one instant let yourself be fooled into thinking any of the bumpers, sliders, racks etc, for these SUVs are created in some lab with extensive man hours and costs going into research that can only be recouped by charging us $2000 for 90 pounds of steel that would cost $800 if it was being mounted on a Jeep.
As someone who used to fabricate their own bumpers, sliders, racks, this us a $500 item that will turn a profit with a large customer base.
Get rid of the large customer base and it arbitrarily becomes a $1000 item to keep the lights on in the shop.
The market for aftermarket options drive the prices for these vehicles.
Don't for one instant let yourself be fooled into thinking any of the bumpers, sliders, racks etc, for these SUVs are created in some lab with extensive man hours and costs going into research that can only be recouped by charging us $2000 for 90 pounds of steel that would cost $800 if it was being mounted on a Jeep.
As someone who used to fabricate their own bumpers, sliders, racks, this us a $500 item that will turn a profit with a large customer base.
Get rid of the large customer base and it arbitrarily becomes a $1000 item to keep the lights on in the shop.
The Becky is hardly an item that ACC is using to keep the lights on in the shop. They do much more then this and their primary focus is on other things. Which could be leading to the higher price. Smaller batches that are set up on an an inefficient line to produce will take more labor and time.
The good news is now there are options. So if you don't like this price you can certainly go buy the $600 version that isn't fully vetted and was handed their design changes by social media to bring them somewhat up to the level of the Becky design.
Hell I still haven't seen the internal mounting of the other design but from what I have heard it is not as detailed and does not tie in the sub structure of the door like the Becky does.
Sure thing! $836 powder coated. Not a plate bumper but still way more metal and design than the Becky. Metal Tech 2003-09 GX470 Raven Front HYBRID Bumper Stage 1
To "keep the lights on", is figurative. They are obviously not making it for charity. It's all for profit no matter if they make money elsewhere on other projects or not.
What I meant by my statement was the price point of $1000 was some guys assumation of what the market would be willing to pay. He didn't total his hours of research and development, the average cost of steel, outsourced lab strength tests, powdercoating costs etc., and arrive at $1000 as his sum.
He likely built it, tested it on his vehicle doing what he enjoys (fabricating and wheeling), made some changes, and said to himself, "I bet people will buy these for $1000" and that became the cost.
That's what most shops do.
If I can go out in my garage and build one in a day for $100 in materials and pay a shop to coat it for $100 does that mean I spent $800 on research?
The cost of this has far less to do with "R&D" and materials then people convince themselves it does. The words "research and development" are just the grey area/cushion that give people the ability to accept a price like $1000 for a tire carrier.
It's a crestive design and it's something that when released, was the only one on the market. I'll give it that. It just isn't $1000 worth of design, research and materials.
If this was $600, I and many others would gladly buy one.
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On sale yes. SRP was over $1000.00. But close enough. I will give you it.
Well now you have a $600 option. So there you go.
I met the owner of ACC in Ouray this summer and talked with him about the Becky. He actually has quite a bit into develop and testing of the design before he released it. More then has ever stated publicly. No you cannot translate R&D into what you can charge for an item I agree with that. So be it.
I personally don't always buy the cheapest thing out there. I purchase based on what I know about a product and about the company. I will buy local first if I can. All of my armor, suspension, roof rack, and other accessories were bought locally from companies that I know the owners and know their business. In this case I will give ACC my business (when I decide I need this product) vs the competition.
The real question is who the heck has one of these!? Not one picture of a person on here with one.
