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Hi Everyone,

My wife and I recently moved from Dallas to Tacoma, WA, where I now have access to tons of National Forest Service roads and it has been a ton of fun. The stock shocks were getting too bouncy, even in the normal and sport setting, so I found a local shop and had Bilstein 5100s installed on all four corners of my GX460 with original springs (stock coils in front, stock airbags in the rear), and they leveled out the rake on the vehicle by raising the front slightly. The truck had over 100,000 miles on the stock shocks, including several trips off-road in California, Nevada, and Colorado over the past 3 years. Due to the cost of the move, I wasn't ready to lift the truck just yet. However, I don't think the shocks were installed correctly, and I wanted to see if anyone else has had this issue and corrected it.

The vehicle now tilts half an inch to the passenger side. The car's alignment feels good until about 10-15mph, then the steering wheel tilts itself a few degrees to the driver's side to keep the car straight, though it keeps tracking straight on the road with no additional input. Doing some reading, it seems that maybe the KDSS flutter valves were not opened during the installation. The steering wheel moving is most likely caused by the piston on the front sway bar actuating, I think. Additionally, they said something about setting the clips to different heights on the front springs, which I am not sure why they did that. Wouldn't that result in different spring rates for the drivers side and passenger side?

My best guess is that they did not open the KDSS valves, and then attempted to compensate for the sway bars by adjusting the clip height setting on the shocks themselves. Would opening those valves and using a jack to correct the lean fix the issue, or do they need to take off the front shocks entirely, make sure both springs are the same height on the front shocks, and then reinstall with the valves open? My gut says that both shocks should be set to the same height.

I am returning to the shop next Tuesday to have them try to fix the issue, but I wanted to see if anyone has had and fixed this issue.

I do not want to mess up the KDSS system, and plan on putting nicer shocks on in the spring (looking at Fox 2.5s and Airbag Man lifted airbags from Australia), but I am quite unhappy with the current handling characteristics of the car due to the lean. Any help or suggestions are welcome. Thanks!

Edit: I am also taking recommendations for shops in the Tacoma area. I would be willing to travel anywhere in the Puget Sound area for the next upgrade.

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If I remember correctly, I think one of the fixes was to drive one side (the high side) up on a 2x4 length of wood (or similar) then adjust the valving. You'll probably have to do a search, there's a bunch of tips 'n tricks for adjusting the KDSS lean issue on this forum.
Regarding the steering wheel being "clocked" a couple of degrees, depending upon how far it's clocked, you can pull the steering wheel off and rotate it one notch on the spline. Sometimes an alignment will work.
 
Thanks! The video I sent to the shop that did the install is this one, from Ed Martin Toyota in Indianapolis. I saw the 2x4 video from Australian Images, but it feels a bit janky and is several years older than this video. The shop is going to use their lift to make the adjustment based on this video. My question is really regarding whether the springs are set correctly on the shocks, since they rebuilt the combination of the two.

For what it's worth, the shop did not want to touch the KDSS system, as they lack the tool to re-pressurize the system if it leaks. Their initial reaction was that some Toyotas lean after having the rake corrected, leading me to believe that they don't know how to properly install shocks and lifts on KDSS equipped vehicles. However, I think they need to open the flutter valves for any KDSS install (4Runner, Tacoma, GX, LX). They should be making the adjustment as per the video I linked above.
 
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Thanks! The video I sent to the shop that did the install is this one, from Ed Martin Toyota in Indianapolis. I saw the 2x4 video from Australian Images, but it feels a bit janky and is several years older than this video. The shop is going to use their lift to make the adjustment based on this video. My question is really regarding whether the springs are set correctly on the shocks, since they rebuilt the combination of the two.

For what it's worth, the shop did not want to touch the KDSS system, as they lack the tool to re-pressurize the system if it leaks. Their initial reaction was that some Toyotas lean after having the rake corrected, leading me to believe that they don't know how to properly install shocks and lifts on KDSS equipped vehicles. However, I think they need to open the flutter valves for any KDSS install (4Runner, Tacoma, GX, LX). They should be making the adjustment as per the video I linked above.
I know you had the suspension done at "this" shop, but do you have another shop that specializes in Toyota/Lexus products in proximity?
 
There is a shop about an hour away in Everett, Torfab, which I believe specializes in Land Cruisers specifically. I haven't made it that far north yet. Might try and swing by there on Monday.
 
There is a shop about an hour away in Everett, Torfab, which I believe specializes in Land Cruisers specifically. I haven't made it that far north yet. Might try and swing by there on Monday.
I would have to think that would be your best bet. Give 'em a call first and describe your issues first to see if it's something in their wheel-house, which I can't imagine it not being.
 
Things might have changed in the last 3 years or so but Torfab told me back then they only worked on 80,100, and 200 series at that time.
 

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