Do you think the V6 will be that unreliable though? Or is just a question of better control when putting the foot down?
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All new with much more complexity than a port injected v8, between the turbos, air/liquid intercooler, port + direct injection, electronic thermostat.. all pushing significantly more force than the v8 from a smaller block with one less main bearing and two less rod bearings.
I do think Toyota will do a better job of this than anyone else, but it is reasonable to assume there is much more “stuff” to fail with this power plant than the outgoing v8.
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And so technology evolves
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I don't think it will be unreliable, this is Toyota/Lexus.
But in 20 years it might be worth a bit to people who value an NA engine because of the false perception that a V8 is more reliable than a turbo'd motor.
Just a thought re: a potential hybrid model and where to hide the batteries, I wonder if they delete the third row and hide them under the floor where the seats would normally be stowed. Maybe not too far off from how they have them hidden under the rear seats in the Tundra?
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In 20 years ICE vehicles will be illegal to operate, and driving your own vehicle will be so cost prohibitive that we'll all be chauffeured around by soulless appliances on wheels. N/A V8 or F/I V6 won't matter - both will be getting melted down and recycled.
Kinda kidding, kinda not.
Im afraid this is the bitter truth. Depending on political environment, pun intended, probably even less than 20.
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I’m betting not many LSs are used for towing travel trailers.
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Both are bad, weird how they only seem to address one of the problems though
Easy. I see melting snowflakes.
"chauffeured around"? Ain't happening without roads dedicated to autonomous vehicles with fancy infrastructure that will track, monitor and coordinate such cars. Autonomous vehicles on normal roads like we know today mixed with human operated cars is a pipe dream and a swindle. It's simply not happening, technical challenges and limitations are simply too great.
I hope not and if some assholes try to impose ICE bans I hope people will rebel and kick those idiots out.
Nothing worse for the environment than destroying perfectly good cars to replace them with "cleaner" ones. What a bunch of BS.
The whole notion that EV cars will save the world is moronic. Light duty vehicles contribute under 17% of carbon emissions in the U.S. It's not like replacing them with EV will bring those emissions to 0% any time soon.
I have an EV for commuting (i3) and I like it, but the relentless EV propaganda makes me want to ditch it and drive the LC more. Burn, baby, burn! It's not gonna make ****ing difference in the end.
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If you hopped in a time machine and told the citizens of August 2001 what the state of the world is in 2021, they'd say the same thing.
Yet here we are.
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As of 2016, Google's self-driving (ie. fully autonomos) cars have already logged more than 2 millions miles driven in California. One of them was finally responsible for an accident: Google's Self-Driving Car Hits a Public Bus in California - https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/googles-driving-car-hits-public-bus-california/story?id=37288589 . California's streets are a small sample of what's possible in the world, but it's still an incredible achievement.
Musk has already made claims about planning to release a model without a steering wheel. (Of course, Musk has yet to meet a single of his self-imposed timelines.)
If anything, we'll see fully autonomous vehicles on the streets much, much sooner than in 20 years.