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2" Body lift is not too hard or expencive to do.

2F-E in a stock format is the best of both worlds.

Emissions maybe an issue, Not sure of the US laws but here you can not put an older design of engine in. Can't go backwards.

If you go the 2F-E swap the rod bolts out on the 2F for ARP ones while your at it.

One thing to concider is the hight of the fan in relation to the shroud, you may have to adjust that and the radiator to suit the new hight.

Matt

PS does a 1FZ-FE use the same box and tranny or would you need that too.
 
what new and previously unheard of mod could this be?...the 2-FE?


the 3FE stroker?
 
Hilux said:
what new and previously unheard of mod could this be?...the 2-FE?

the 3FE stroker?
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2F block + 3FE induction = 2 FE = 3FE Stroker. It all depends on what you want to call it. There are other ways to fuel inject a 2F, so 3FE stroker is a good way to refer to this engine. The name "3FE Stroker" was coined by Tim Jenkins @ DOA Racing, BTW.

The 3FE has a shorter stroke than the 2F, so by sticking a 2F block under the 3FE induction you increase the stroke (.26", 6.6mm), aka make it a "stroker."

Not new. It was written up in Toyota trails a few years ago and there are a hand full of us with that engine, in various forms and vehicles.
 
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You take the 4280cc 2F late flat top piston version and bolt a fuel injection 3FE head on.

Giving you a fuel injected 2F or 2FE or in my case a 2F-ETI like below:hillbilly:

 
I've not had any issue passing emissions here in Spokane.

I love my 2F-E, especially with the cam I just put in. See the camshaft thread for more information;

CAMSHAFT THREAD

Steve, one thing to take note of is the accessory locations as compared to the FJ62 and FJ60 and FJ80.

FJ80 doesn't weigh that much more than the FJ62. You'll be happy enough with the 2F-E. The 2F-E is cheaper to do than a 350 or 1HZ swap. Maybe not as powerful, but I think good enough.
 
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I placed the 3fe head back on the block today and measured the space between the hood and the front engine hook and there was less than 1.5 inches of space. I can't remember if the air intake is higher than that nor not.

The only way that I can see that this install could be done is with a 2 inch body lift. The only problem now is that I have a ARB bull bar and winch mounted. It doesn't appear that I could do a 2 inch body lift with the bull bar (at least if I wanted to use my headlamps).

Steve
 
sbisig said:
I placed the 3fe head back on the block today and measured the space between the hood and the front engine hook and there was less than 1.5 inches of space. I can't remember if the air intake is higher than that nor not.

The only way that I can see that this install could be done is with a 2 inch body lift. The only problem now is that I have a ARB bull bar and winch mounted. It doesn't appear that I could do a 2 inch body lift with the bull bar (at least if I wanted to use my headlamps).

Steve
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Try a hood scoop or hump? I doubt there's anything off the shelf, but a single, stamped sheet metal dome to raise the existing hood hump an inch or 2 would be much easier, IMO. And I can't see it affecting visibility much unless you're Vern Troyer.
And you'd likely have to clearance the bulge in the firewall a bit, too. A hammer'll take care of that. :hillbilly:
 
hj60 said:
Try a hood scoop or hump? I doubt there's anything off the shelf, but a single, stamped sheet metal dome to raise the existing hood hump an inch or 2 would be much easier, IMO. And I can't see it affecting visibility much unless you're Vern Troyer.
And you'd likely have to clearance the bulge in the firewall a bit, too. A hammer'll take care of that. :hillbilly:
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Believe or not a quick search on google found a hood with a scoop that supposed to fit 80-series.

See at SHOP.COM - TOYOTA LAND CRUISER Hood

Here is another image of a different scoop from the thread at https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/176021-hood-scoops-3.html

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I would just to have to find one that is (1) large enough to cover the valve cover and the offset EFI intake box, and (2) one that is tall enough, and (3) one that looks good.

Steve
 
For toyota used parts have you called over to nix99 in northern Seattle??

When I lived up there I used them quite a bit writing repair estimates on cars.

FWIW, I think the 2fe would be pretty cool in an 80 series truck. With as much work as you are going to do for a minimal increase in power I am not sure it is worth it.

Dave
 
PHAEDRUS said:
For toyota used parts have you called over to nix99 in northern Seattle??

Dave
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Thanks for the info. I'll be calling them tomorrow.

For anybody else in the Seattle region, their website is www.nix99.com

Steve
 
I haven't completely decided. As of today, I have the engine out and on a stand with the engine stripped down to a short block.

After lunch today, I'll start my evaluation of the block. I'll also have to get the cylinder bore professionally evaluated.

I'm not sure about cutting the hood. It would have to fit the valve cover as well as all the EFI box. This may require cutting the structural member running down the center of the hood.

Either way, I will check out Delta. Especially since they are only a 20 minute drive from my house.

Decisions.

Steve
 
I pulled the rod caps off and everything looks practically brand new. The rod thrust and oil clearance are all within factory specs. I didn't pull the main bearing caps yet.

I found a machine shop that will do an evaluation for $50 and give me options based on my budget.

So hopefully I'll get by with a rebore (or if I luck out a hone) and new internal components, a valve job and little shave of the head as well as a Delta cam shaft.

Steve
 
Yesterday, I dropped the 3FE short block off for a evaluation. It'll need a rebore for sure. Hopefully no machine work for the crank. I'll go with a delta cam.

The machine shop will check over the rest of the block and let me know late next week.

I wish I could go with the 2F block, however, because the reasons in prior posts it'll have to be the 3FE.

Maybe the thread should be changed to a "3FE rebuild" thread.

Steve
 
No, no!!! Go the 2F. If I had my old block I'd donate it to you! I really want to see a 2F-E in an 80.

BUT, I think you would be very happy with a rebuilt and cam'd 3F-E, though you may loose the more desirable torque curve of the more overstroked approach.
 
I would love to try it but the 3FE sits really close to the hood, in fact there is an indentation in the hood insulation for the air intake. I'm not even sure a 2 inch lift would even work. Also my ARB winch bar won't line up with the headlamps and who knows what else would have to be modified.

If I installed a scoop of some sort, based on the under hood insulation, it would have to be quite large (and tall) and it appears that it would affect the structural components of the hood. I'm not skilled in body work to make it work.

If anybody out there with a 3FE powered FJ80 cares to measure the distance between the engine and hood, I would like to hear it. My measurement was only an estimate because the engine was partially disassembled.

Steve
 
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