2016 URJ200 SERIES LAND CRUISER/LX570 UPDATE-REFRESH

[T4Runner]

Here is new Test review video if a US spec unit.

I don't trust him, he looks like Agent Smith when he leaves the Matrix and enters the real world by possessing that dude who blinds Neo...

 

[cc1999]

MAN that LX Grill is uuuugleh... (YOMV...)

I wonder if you could put even mount an ARB Bull Bar..given that you normally have to trim the bumper all the way across to fit.

I keeping looking for that sweeping red eye and listening for that wooo-woooo-woooo-woooo sound when I watch video of the new LX. I just don't see how that sci-fi look could possibly appeal to the typical conservative Lexus customer.

 

[RTaylor]

The LX grill looks much better in person. I like the updated styling of the rear hatch too. The '16 LX has more personality which will help it compete against Range Rover, Escalade, Denali, etc.

 

[luke27617]

Interesting. Russian version of LC doesn't have third row and as well rear gate is power like in Lexus. Too bad we don't have that option for both.

 

[Angelo1]

Well I do live at 6000 feet, so Im sure that slows it a bit.

I also live close to 6,000ft and drive a lot above 10,000ft. The LC is not underpowered by any means for the total package you're getting with this rig. The Infiniti is a a plastic joke off-road and looks like a rolling piece of suburb trash that wishes it was more like an Esclade. Most people who spend $80k on LC have more options in the garage for additional power. If I need more power to the mall, I either pullout my 13' ML63 s or 14' CLS63 s. Come on guys, we don't buy these LC for 0-60 times. We buy them because of their incredible reliability and do all go anywhere reputation. Mostly, I bought mine for camping, hiking, skiing and the occasional off-road trails which neither requires 400+hp 0-60 under 6.5sec.

P.S the new Lexus front ends look like poo. Just buy a Range Rover or an Esclade if you're looking for style and function. I don't know anyone who spend $90k+ on an SUV and keeps it forever. They trade them in every 3-4yrs, so warranty on a Range or Esclade is no big deal.

 

[White Stripe]

I also live close to 6,000ft and drive a lot above 10,000ft. The LC is not underpowered by any means for the total package you're getting with this rig. The Infiniti is a a plastic joke off-road and looks like a rolling piece of suburb trash that wishes it was more like an Esclade. Most people who spend $80k on LC have more options in the garage for additional power. If I need more power to the mall, I either pullout my 13' ML63 s or 14' CLS63 s. Come on guys, we don't buy these LC for 0-60 times. We buy them because of their incredible reliability and do all go anywhere reputation. Mostly, I bought mine for camping, hiking, skiing and the occasional off-road trails which neither requires 400+hp 0-60 under 6.5sec.

P.S the new Lexus front ends look like poo. Just buy a Range Rover or an Esclade if you're looking for style and function. I don't know anyone who spend $90k+ on an SUV and keeps it forever. They trade them in every 3-4yrs, so warranty on a Range or Esclade is no big deal.

Both Infiniti and the 200 have a lot of plastic. I have driven all of the Infiniti models, and everyone of them feels sportier and faster that what Toyota offers. To me they both are somewhat Escalade wannabees. For the price the 200 costs, I don't think another 50 to 100hp is asking too much. But my original point with Infiniti was that they seem to use more technology on their motor than Toyota.

 

[arich]

But they had a 4 year old design it. There is nothing uglier on the road. A few moms here in town have them and I cringe every time I pass one.

 

[Markuson]

But they had a 4 year old design it. There is nothing uglier on the road. A few moms here in town have them and I cringe every time I pass one. View attachment 1180661

Front end sorta looks like it parked too close to the fire and is starting to MELT.

Other than that...I think it looks OK.

But what can it do in the dirt?

 

[Jooones]

But what can it do in the dirt?

Curious about that myself.

 

[Angelo1]

Both Infiniti and the 200 have a lot of plastic. I have driven all of the Infiniti models, and everyone of them feels sportier and faster that what Toyota offers. To me they both are somewhat Escalade wannabees. For the price the 200 costs, I don't think another 50 to 100hp is asking too much. But my original point with Infiniti was that they seem to use more technology on their motor than Toyota.

I agree with you that the LC has a bit of plastic. I really dislike the fact that they don't use real wood on the interior. It could use better interior lighting as well. Really cheapens it for sure. The Infiniti is certainly has more sporty suspension system and better interior with more hp. They do pull the same weight however.

You can't compare a QX to an LC. Completely different vehicles. You can compare the QX to Lincoln, Cadillac as they are 1st one road and off-road being secondary. This group is more off-road 1st and on-road secondary-LC,G550,LR4, Range Rover and jeep. You will never see an Infinit trying to follow the LC off-road. When you mean it has more technology, are referring to the interior Bells and whistles? Because, no way does it have better off-road tech, and personally you don't want so much tech to go wrong while you're in the boondocks. To me, the least amount of "tech" the better for longevity and reliability. The big Infinti is for housewives and not anyone over 6ft. Very small cockpit!

 

[Markuson]

I agree with you that the LC has a bit of plastic. I really dislike the fact that they don't use real wood on the interior. It could use better interior lighting as well. Really cheapens it for sure. The Infiniti is certainly has more sporty suspension system and better interior with more hp. They do pull the same weight however.

You can't compare a QX to an LC. Completely different vehicles. You can compare the QX to Lincoln, Cadillac as they are 1st one road and off-road being secondary. This group is more off-road 1st and on-road secondary-LC,G550,LR4, Range Rover and jeep. You will never see an Infinit trying to follow the LC off-road. When you mean it has more technology, are referring to the interior Bells and whistles? Because, no way does it have better off-road tech, and personally you don't want so much tech to go wrong while you're in the boondocks. To me, the least amount of "tech" the better for longevity and reliability. The big Infinti is for housewives and not anyone over 6ft. Very small cockpit!

Regarding the lighting issue... I agree it could be better. See the thread I just created after having finally found a pleasing LED that retains the warm feel, but pleasingly brighter...and for a grand total of $10...

Here's the new thread:
Finally! Pleasing, Warm LEDs for Interior

 

[White Stripe]

I agree with you that the LC has a bit of plastic. I really dislike the fact that they don't use real wood on the interior. It could use better interior lighting as well. Really cheapens it for sure. The Infiniti is certainly more sporty driving I'm sure as the suspension not nearly the same robust design for off-road use as the LC. You will never see an Infinit trying to follow the LC off-road. When you mean it has more technology, are referring to the interior Bells and whistles? Because, no way does it have better off-road tech, and personally you don't want so much tech to go wrong while you're in the boondocks. To me, the least amount of "tech" the better for longevity and reliability. The big Infinti is for housewives trying to showoff fake bling since they finally made it to the 800k suburbs but can't quite afford a Range Rover SC or Autobiography and that $1mil plus home. Total posers.

Nothing against Infiniti as a brand and I know they make a great product for what it is but to me it just looks like an odd vehicle with poor taste like their buyer.

The LX version has real wood on the interior, they have bamboo and they brag about it being a renewable resource and I think it looks nice. Its also expensive to replace if you scratch a piece lol. I haven't looked at the toyota version too much, and maybe that has fake wood. No I doubt the Infiniti has as good offroad tech. But I mentioned that Infiniti has variable valve lift-which is a cool technology and the 200 doesn't have that. Also Infiniti has had the birds eye system for years now-something that just now the 200 has this year. However Nissan tends to have more bugs with their software compared to Toyota. I guess I just think Toyota should have put a supercharger in the LX's, that would make it move awesome. And less plastic looking nobs, some stainless or aluminum switches instead would be great looking. And I think it should have stayed the size of the 100 to make it easier off road, instead of getting bigger.

 

[Angelo1]

Both Infiniti and the 200 have a lot of plastic. I have driven all of the Infiniti models, and everyone of them feels sportier and faster that what Toyota offers. To me they both are somewhat Escalade wannabees. For the price the 200 costs, I don't think another 50 to 100hp is asking too much. But my original point with Infiniti was that they seem to use more technology on their motor than Toyota.

TRD SC $8500 installed 504 HP and 550 lb-ft of torque for the LC. That would bring the cost to equal the new limited QX and you'd have 100hp and tons more torque than the QX for the same or less money of the QX

 

[Angelo1]

One thing about Toyota is that they are slow on putting in new tech. They wait for it to be bug free before adding it to their vehicles as to why they always seem behind by 2-3yrs on tech. They no recalls are very expensive and try hard to prevent hurting the brand known for its reliability record.

 

[LX prospect]

But I mentioned that Infiniti has variable valve lift-which is a cool technology and the 200 doesn't have that.

As we've stated before, this is false -- please stop posting it!

5.7L V8 Dual Independent VVT-i
With Land Cruiser’s power and torque at your disposal, even the most inhospitable terrain will not intimidate you. The 5.7-liter Double Overhead Cam (DOHC) 32-valve V8 employs Dual Independent Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i) and Acoustic Control Induction System (ACIS). These advanced technologies help the engine produce 381 hp and 401 lb.-ft. of torque.

 

[White Stripe]

As we've stated before, this is false -- please stop posting it!

5.7L V8 Dual Independent VVT-i
With Land Cruiser’s power and torque at your disposal, even the most inhospitable terrain will not intimidate you. The 5.7-liter Double Overhead Cam (DOHC) 32-valve V8 employs Dual Independent Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i) and Acoustic Control Induction System (ACIS). These advanced technologies help the engine produce 381 hp and 401 lb.-ft. of torque.

I never said the 200 didn't have vvti. Both Toyota and Infiniti have variable valve timing or vvti. I stated that infiniti has variable valve event lift or vvel. Toyota does not have vvel which is totally different from vvti.

 

[burbuja96]

A bit better than the Q. I like both LC/LX front.


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[arich]

Digging a hole!!! Lol

 

[M1911]

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A bit better than the Q. I like both LC/LX front.

I like the Patrol much better than the Q. I can't stand the LX grille.

 

[Markuson]

I can't stand the LX grille.

You mean this grill? Ya... Neither can I...