2016 URJ200 SERIES LAND CRUISER/LX570 UPDATE-REFRESH (2 Viewers)
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Don't tell me those seats go flush into the floor now.... would be pretty nice but I don't know how they could do it with a solid rear axle which usually takes up too much vertical space pushing the body floor too high for true flush cargo floor with sunk in folded seats, like in my LR3 and in the Mercedes GL. It's one of the cool things about the cargo space in the LR3/4. If Toyota figured out how to retain a solid rear axle, keep that larger interior volume, but shove the seats into the floor somehow, that would be awesome. Mainly if the Land Cruiser could also get the same treatment.
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Upon further inspection of the larger press shots of 2nd row, no, it's not even close to a flat/flush cargo floor. Oh well. This thing makes the new Range Rover actually look rugged.
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just noticed the flush but full length roof rails too. I am NOT a fan of the flush design even though they are probably quieter, they do not allow the same level of solid anchor that a raised rail can provide in conjunction with the best rail grab made by Thule. The Thule uses a wrap around design that will hold solid even if it's not absolutely tight whereas the simple squeeze design from Yakima is not as secure, nor as slick.
that dash is pretty interesting, reminding me of the Range Rover dash designs that started with the 2003 full size and evolved since then all having an architectural feel with the long slab running through the center stack.
If Lexus doesn't allow ordering without those hideous DVD headrests, they've really not stayed with the times.
that dash is pretty interesting, reminding me of the Range Rover dash designs that started with the 2003 full size and evolved since then all having an architectural feel with the long slab running through the center stack.
If Lexus doesn't allow ordering without those hideous DVD headrests, they've really not stayed with the times.
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Grille sucks.
I actually liked the 13-15 grill on the Lexus, but not a fan of the 16... Interior looks nice but would make me feel like I am driving a car... I like the "SUV" feel of the land cruiser just my thoughts..
When are we going to see pictures of the land cruiser already!!!
When are we going to see pictures of the land cruiser already!!!
Yeah. Rather than wait 3 years and say I like it (like most folks do every change), I'm going to say I like it now. For a Lux cruiser- that if it had to go off road it could. I can't see rigging one of these for off roading like the 450 or 470- can you imagine the bumper design engineer at ARB right now? Anyway. Will be my wife's next used LX in a few years.
I am certainly not a fan of the LX either, but I imagine the buyer Toyota is targeting is unlikely to do much offroading or overlanding. As for the challenges the new design, LX and LC, would present ARB and others, I believe it is time for us to expect more from these companies. Designing a robust offroad front and rear bumper does not have to relegated to figuring out how you are going to weld a bunch of flat plates together.
I would love to see a supplier for Toyota with the sophistication of AEV Conversions for Jeep and Ram. The front and rear bumpers on their Wranglers and Rams are consistent with the lines of the vehicles. Their engineering and manufacturing are just as professional as the OEMs, and as such they have been enormously successful. Toyota just needs to open up to working with a similar supplier the way FCA works with AEV.
I would love to see a supplier for Toyota with the sophistication of AEV Conversions for Jeep and Ram. The front and rear bumpers on their Wranglers and Rams are consistent with the lines of the vehicles. Their engineering and manufacturing are just as professional as the OEMs, and as such they have been enormously successful. Toyota just needs to open up to working with a similar supplier the way FCA works with AEV.
I've been saying for years to anyone who will listen that we Toyota guys need an equivalent to Jeep's AEV.
You have a link or pictures to the 5.7 swap? To date I have not seen one swap. Slee won't even attempt it because Toyota has the PCM on lock down plus all the sensor that need imput to make it run. Plus the physical size of the DOHC V8 is rather large and doesn't fit between the wheel wells very well.
I own '13 LX and think '16 looks great... a step in a right direction.... a distinct and capable vehicle for someone with mild off road aspirations.... I ski, surf and mountain bike so mostly use to get me to and from plus 3 kids.... but given the fact that supposedly these things don't die, would probably buy one in the next 5-8 yrs so next version probably.... but if i were in the market, would not hesitate buying '16 version on account of aesthetics.....
Since he mentions the 100 series i think it's just a typo and he meant the 4.7
What about all the land cruisers sold in other countries? Don't they account/design that they are made to go off road and that's what their customers want in the other countries? Remember they only sell 5k units a year in the states.
I really like the interior and center part just wish they would put that interior into the Land Cruiser. 
. That roof rack tells it all. Lexus IS not helping anyone who utilizes stuff up there with that slim design. land Cruiser better get the full rack!!
. That roof rack tells it all. Lexus IS not helping anyone who utilizes stuff up there with that slim design. land Cruiser better get the full rack!!
@codyaustin5: I am confused by the question, you'll learn this happens often with me.
I am certainly not complaining about the on or off road capability of the LX or the LC. Designs are based on requirements, requirements are defined by sales and marketing, sales and marketing define the requirements which they believe will give them the most market share. As the second largest automobile producer in the world (I think VW overtook them), Toyota's sales and marketing does an excellent job.
My comments were directed at the aftermarket suppliers such as ARB, TJM, and others. There is not a supplier for Toyota that I am aware of who does as good a job designing and building accessories for the LC and LX as AEV Conversions does for the Wrangler and Ram 2500. And, to be clear, the Toyota suppliers design functional products (robust, feature rich, practical), but where they fail to deliver is the aesthetic aspect of the design. Most individuals unfamiliar with ARB and TJM can look at the bumpers and tell they are aftermarket. By comparison, the AEV accessories look like they were part of the native design .... and they are extremely functional. I know, I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder .... but for me, I'd rather have accessories that were consistent with the rest of the vehicle design.
I am certainly not complaining about the on or off road capability of the LX or the LC. Designs are based on requirements, requirements are defined by sales and marketing, sales and marketing define the requirements which they believe will give them the most market share. As the second largest automobile producer in the world (I think VW overtook them), Toyota's sales and marketing does an excellent job.
My comments were directed at the aftermarket suppliers such as ARB, TJM, and others. There is not a supplier for Toyota that I am aware of who does as good a job designing and building accessories for the LC and LX as AEV Conversions does for the Wrangler and Ram 2500. And, to be clear, the Toyota suppliers design functional products (robust, feature rich, practical), but where they fail to deliver is the aesthetic aspect of the design. Most individuals unfamiliar with ARB and TJM can look at the bumpers and tell they are aftermarket. By comparison, the AEV accessories look like they were part of the native design .... and they are extremely functional. I know, I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder .... but for me, I'd rather have accessories that were consistent with the rest of the vehicle design.
No worries. Understand what your saying about aftermarket. My question for anyone really is do they design the land cruiser for the minority sales in the U.S. Or do they account for what the other counties actually use them for. We've seen them dumb down the 200 for other countries. Do they think it won't sell here like that or their research tells them we want our cruisers all luxury?@codyaustin5: I am confused by the question, you'll learn this happens often with me.
I am certainly not complaining about the on or off road capability of the LX or the LC. Designs are based on requirements, requirements are defined by sales and marketing, sales and marketing define the requirements which they believe will give them the most market share. As the second largest automobile producer in the world (I think VW overtook them), Toyota's sales and marketing does an excellent job.
My comments were directed at the aftermarket suppliers such as ARB, TJM, and others. There is not a supplier for Toyota that I am aware of who does as good a job designing and building accessories for the LC and LX as AEV Conversions does for the Wrangler and Ram 2500. And, to be clear, the Toyota suppliers design functional products (robust, feature rich, practical), but where they fail to deliver is the aesthetic aspect of the design. Most individuals unfamiliar with ARB and TJM can look at the bumpers and tell they are aftermarket. By comparison, the AEV accessories look like they were part of the native design .... and they are extremely functional. I know, I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder .... but for me, I'd rather have accessories that were consistent with the rest of the vehicle design.
