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Yeah but you have a snorkel, no?

Snorkel helps the the intake, but doesn’t help doors seals and other pesky entry points…
 
Having the snorkel doesn't prevent water from making a mess of all other sorts. While it Gives you confidence that you wont hydrolock the motor you may have water flowing in through your Climate control vents, door sills or flood out the alternator. I plan adding some chest high waders to my recovery gear one of these days lol.
What’s the point then?

Our 5.7 V8 engines cost about $20,000+ to replace. That's point enough for me. :meh: indycole found that out the hard way… The other damage that can happen on the interior, though, can real real bummer to deal with all on its own…so its definitely worth taking water intrusion prevention into account.
 
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What’s the point then?

Living in AZ and running a lot of dusty trails, the snorkel and precleaner make a big difference. For a water crossings like the one I did yesterday, the snorkel is simply protecting the engine internals. The alternator in particular is still at risk based on its location and was my biggest concern. Fortunately that wasn't an issue. Quite a lot of water made it on top of my engine (splashing) which means the location of the stock air intake would likely have seen some water forced into the area, so the snorkel did its job. People always see the videos of 200 series with water up to the hood, but anything past the door sills can create big problems if you don't keep moving enough for the truck to keep pushing water away.

Apologies for LOL as I assumed you were poking fun at the snorkel and its limited (but important) utility.
 
Our 5.7 V8 engines cost about $20,000+ to replace. That's point enough for me. :meh: indycole found that out the hard way… The other damage that can happen on the interior, though, can real real bummer to deal with all on its own…so its definitely worth taking water intrusion prevention into account.

20 grand???

I’m not denying water can get in and I don’t plan on taking my LX through stuff that rough. But I see plenty of old LCs with snorkels around here.
 
Living in AZ and running a lot of dusty trails, the snorkel and precleaner make a big difference. For a water crossings like the one I did yesterday, the snorkel is simply protecting the engine internals. The alternator in particular is still at risk based on its location and was my biggest concern. Fortunately that wasn't an issue. Quite a lot of water made it on top of my engine (splashing) which means the location of the stock air intake would likely have seen some water forced into the area, so the snorkel did its job. People always see the videos of 200 series with water up to the hood, but anything past the door sills can create big problems if you don't keep moving enough for the truck to keep pushing water away.

Apologies for LOL as I assumed you were poking fun at the snorkel and its limited (but important) utility.

Oh no worries! Just genuinely curious. 200 can ford about 2.5 feet of water stock.

I see snorkels here all the time but it’s definitely not the desert nor is there any “dusty desert air” here.
 
Oh no worries! Just genuinely curious. 200 can ford about 2.5 feet of water stock.

I see snorkels here all the time but it’s definitely not the desert nor is there any “dusty desert air” here.
On my old Tacoma I just thought they looked cool and used the "dust and river crossings" to justify it, if you know what I mean. I had run out of money for real mods like long travel so a snorkel was a relatively cheap cosmetic upgrade.

On my old Land Cruiser I actually didn't want to get one... until I added 35s and had to chop up my fender liners to fit. Toyota has the stock air intake in the fender so I started sucking in dust, found it in my air filter box and intake. Added a snorkel and the air box cleaned up significantly.

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(This is my buddy's cruiser but I ran this and several other crossings on the trip without a snorkel)

We have quite a few river crossings here in Utah and I've run them both with and without snorkels without a problem. Water level, here at least, isn't as much of an issue. I'm always primarily worried about the mud at the bottom and if I'll get stuck - such a pain winching out of the middle of a river. Then as people mentioned, the next worries are frying your alternator, getting water in the cabin, and getting water in the diffs. You can always tell who is serious about water crossings if they've extended their diff breathers. The biggest worry though in terms of depth for Utah rivers, is that if the water is deep enough to require a snorkel, it's probably running at such a high CFS that you're in danger of being swept away. I just avoid rivers during the rainy season.

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Here's a pic of my 200 so we're back on track, just got new tires this morning:

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Re: snorkel: Lol I was watching Dante's Peak last night, what's funny is that modded, lifted, snorkeled Suburban had some serious off road chops, way more so than Linda Hamilton's stock 60 Series.
 
20 grand???

I’m not denying water can get in and I don’t plan on taking my LX through stuff that rough. But I see plenty of old LCs with snorkels around here.

Yes. Not sure I follow…
 
On my old Tacoma I just thought they looked cool and used the "dust and river crossings" to justify it, if you know what I mean. I had run out of money for real mods like long travel so a snorkel was a relatively cheap cosmetic upgrade.

On my old Land Cruiser I actually didn't want to get one... until I added 35s and had to chop up my fender liners to fit. Toyota has the stock air intake in the fender so I started sucking in dust, found it in my air filter box and intake. Added a snorkel and the air box cleaned up significantly.

FTmlwKn.jpg

(This is my buddy's cruiser but I ran this and several other crossings on the trip without a snorkel)

We have quite a few river crossings here in Utah and I've run them both with and without snorkels without a problem. Water level, here at least, isn't as much of an issue. I'm always primarily worried about the mud at the bottom and if I'll get stuck - such a pain winching out of the middle of a river. Then as people mentioned, the next worries are frying your alternator, getting water in the cabin, and getting water in the diffs. You can always tell who is serious about water crossings if they've extended their diff breathers. The biggest worry though in terms of depth for Utah rivers, is that if the water is deep enough to require a snorkel, it's probably running at such a high CFS that you're in danger of being swept away. I just avoid rivers during the rainy season.

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Here's a pic of my 200 so we're back on track, just got new tires this morning:

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Stock Suspension? If so, you must be running a spacer up front? Mine in stock form has too much rake. Planned to do BP51 immediately but none to be had for months it seems.
 
Re: snorkel: Lol I was watching Dante's Peak last night, what's funny is that modded, lifted, snorkeled Suburban had some serious off road chops, way more so than Linda Hamilton's stock 60 Series.
There are also some real life 200's ..

 
Jaw dropped that that LC made it through. Wow! My god!

Aside… One major difference for water is how reliant our modern cruisers are on water-sensitive electronics…which are WOEFULLY unprotected along the inside floor of our rigs. This is one huge advantage to the older LCs you mentioned seeing with snorkels.
 
Got back to PA on Friday welcomed with two days of straight rain. It finally cleared up today. Decided to spend the nice weather running through the pine barrens with the wife and little ones all day. We will be moving out west at the end of the year, so we’re trying to get our fill of this incredible place in the meantime.

if your ever in the south Jersey area don’t skip out on this place. It’s 1m acres of soft Sandy trails and water crossings. A lot of the east is technical driving, here you can barrel down the tight trails doing 40-50mph with no end in sight.

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Sounds awesome. I’m not far from south jersey. Maybe a dumb question, but how does one navigate the pine barrens? Do you go off-roading there alone or with a group?

I’m fairly new to off-roading so wouldn’t want to do it alone.
 

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