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Taking the m416 for first ride with LC

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Very nice trailer! I've been on the lookout fgor one as nice as yours for a while, but no success so far.

I have a safety concern with your wheels which I noticed in your earlier photos but became clearer in these photos. It looks like you are using the lug nuts designed for the OEM aluminum wheels which have a flat mating surface on your steelies which have a conical mating surface:

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If this is the case, you should really be using lug nuts with a conical mating surface on your steelies. This is a safety concern.

HTH
 
Very nice trailer! I've been on the lookout fgor one as nice as yours for a while, but no success so far.

I have a safety concern with your wheels which I noticed in your earlier photos but became clearer in these photos. It looks like you are using the lug nuts designed for the OEM aluminum wheels which have a flat mating surface on your steelies which have a conical mating surface:

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If this is the case, you should really be using lug nuts with a conical mating surface on your steelies. This is a safety concern.

HTH
I noticed that these lug nuts have both a conical (tapered) seat as well as a flat mag seat (with washer) to support the alloys. I know not to use a mag seat with steel rims but these nuts fit perfectly inside the recessed rims without the mag touching the rim. And since the rim has the exact center bore it's perfectly hub centric.
I'm guessing the taper is about 5-6mm long? Do standard steel rim lug nuts go deeper?

As for the trailer, I bought it repainted only and have done a ton of work on it over the past 5 years. New bearings, seals, NOS leaves and shackles, hitch receiver/reinforcement, tire carrier, Gerry cans, tongue box, etc. not to mention all serviceable zerks were solid with grease likely from the 60's.
I.m constantly battling rust on it but it's been great. I use to tow it with my jeep to carry kayaks, bikes, etc. . It's so light I can lift it and move it with ease.

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These are the same lug nuts used on the tundra for aluminum rims, and the stock steel spare.

Just as Kinnada demonstrated.
 
Those lug nuts may be OK for TEMPORARY use on a spare wheel, but I still recommend lug nuts designed for the conical seating surface of the steel wheels if they will be used full time.

Do what you will, but I'd never use those lug nuts on a steel wheel.

HTH
 
Those lug nuts may be OK for TEMPORARY use on a spare wheel, but I still recommend lug nuts designed for the conical seating surface of the steel wheels if they will be used full time.

Do what you will, but I'd never use those lug nuts on a steel wheel.

HTH
I agree the flat mag sticking out looks a little off but the nut is tapered as is the seat on the steel wheel. I'm gonna pick up some basic tapered 14 x 1.5's and see if there's any difference to compare just in case you're onto something.
This wheel with center cap was also issued on the tundra as a standard wheel with cap, not just as a spare. So I have no problem running them full time. You may remember it like this (silver):

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Ok, now the back story.

I went wheeling at the Southern Appalachian Expedition in Ranger, Ga this weekend with a Land Rover group. Pretty cool guys (but my 200 was definitely the most capable, muhahahah). Anyway, after taking the hardest hill climb they had I found that one of my STT Pros had a slow leak according to the TPMS. When I get home I’ll find what the actual problem is.

So we decide to stop a Cracker Barrel for breakfast. It’s raining, that tire has a lug ripped down pretty far and now a possible leak. Figured I’ll switch it out for the drive back. Don’t need a blow out on the interstate, yea know.

So I use the factory bottle jack, on nice flat asphalt. The rear left tire is off, and I got up to walk to the back of the truck to get a dead blow hammer to switch the center cap of the RWs.

And the bam!! The lift gate comes down on my head... because the axle housing fell off the jack!! Now most you guys know, I mean how many tires have I taken off in my life? 4,000? 5,000? A ton, that’s for sure, never had an accident in my life.

I don’t know how it happened, I did notice a little car was backing up right before it happened, he could of tapped the front bumper, enough to kick it off. Absolutely no damage to the front end, could of been just enough to kick the truck off a jack. And I did notice later the jack base was deeply cutting into the ashalt of this parking lot. The jack could of been sinking into the asphalt, putting the jack on an angle.

So... I’m going to start carrying my big orange marshmallow again (an X jack). Either way, take a look at that BudBuilt shock guard. It took the full blow and didn’t dent/bent/deflect a bit! And also, it left a 1/4” of clearance so that my dust shield was completely unscathed. Thank god, I hate all the work to replace those. And it did carve out a nice bit of the parking lot too. Take that Cracker Barrel! I do love you hash brown casserole though.

So in summary, I hate parking lots, off-road jacks are better than small factory ones (even through the factory jack is a solid piece of equiptement), and when you wheel with Rovers, you get bad luck break down germs on you.

Plus side, at least I had those BudBuilt shock guards, the Mark IIs. Back on the highway.
 
Likely story, but Rule#1 Chicks dig scars. Seriously though you are lucky, concussion or worse was possible. I'm glad everything but the jack worked as designed. From the looks of the pavement the vehicle moved?
 
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Ok, now the back story.

I went wheeling at the Southern Appalachian Expedition in Ranger, Ga this weekend with a Land Rover group. Pretty cool guys (but my 200 was definitely the most capable, muhahahah). Anyway, after taking the hardest hill climb they had I found that one of my STT Pros had a slow leak according to the TPMS. When I get home I’ll find what the actual problem is.

So we decide to stop a Cracker Barrel for breakfast. It’s raining, that tire has a lug ripped down pretty far and now a possible leak. Figured I’ll switch it out for the drive back. Don’t need a blow out on the interstate, yea know.

So I use the factory bottle jack, on nice flat asphalt. The rear left tire is off, and I got up to walk to the back of the truck to get a dead blow hammer to switch the center cap of the RWs.

And the bam!! The lift gate comes down on my head... because the axle housing fell off the jack!! Now most you guys know, I mean how many tires have I taken off in my life? 4,000? 5,000? A ton, that’s for sure, never had an accident in my life.

I don’t know how it happened, I did notice a little car was backing up right before it happened, he could of tapped the front bumper, enough to kick it off. Absolutely no damage to the front end, could of been just enough to kick the truck off a jack. And I did notice later the jack base was deeply cutting into the ashalt of this parking lot. The jack could of been sinking into the asphalt, putting the jack on an angle.

So... I’m going to start carrying my big orange marshmallow again (an X jack). Either way, take a look at that BudBuilt shock guard. It took the full blow and didn’t dent/bent/deflect a bit! And also, it left a 1/4” of clearance so that my dust shield was completely unscathed. Thank god, I hate all the work to replace those. And it did carve out a nice bit of the parking lot too. Take that Cracker Barrel! I do love you hash brown casserole though.

So in summary, I hate parking lots, off-road jacks are better than small factory ones (even through the factory jack is a solid piece of equiptement), and when you wheel with Rovers, you get bad luck break down germs on you.

Plus side, at least I had those BudBuilt shock guards, the Mark IIs. Back on the highway.

Ouch! Glad it wasn't worse. :frown:

Sounds like you already have a solution in mind, but @LandCruiserPhil makes jack adapters to keep just that from happening (unless it's pushed of course).

Jack Adapters - Land Cruiser Products - LCP
 
Likely story, but Rule#1 Chicks dig scars. Seriously though you are lucky, concussion or worse was possible. I'm glad everything but the jack worked as designed. From the looks of the pavement the vehicle moved?
It was a good fast drop. What you’re seeing is the shock guard going a little right to left, not really forward or backward. The truck was locked in park, with the e-brake on. Oh well, makes for a good story. I try to live my life like a movie, but still trying to figure out if it’s a comedy or a tragedy.

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Potentially getting ready to try and sell Fat Amy. Decided to do a full detail.

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I don't really wanna encourage you to dump Fat Amy...but
those shots don't do your rig justice like this one you posted some time back...

This one = WOW:

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Although... Hmm.. maybe this was pre-body lift?

This pic was pre body lift and pre 37's. She was just a little girl back then.
 

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