Does anyon know if they have any of the kits left and / or who to contact to find out?
2" Ironman Lift
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There is a kit on ebay right nowfor 86 to 90 sixty series but they have raised the bid price to $700.00.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Iron...0QQihZ013QQcategoryZ33585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Iron...0QQihZ013QQcategoryZ33585QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
ha s*** that is funny, they found out they could sell them for more. lol. glad i got mine at 550, but still 700 is even that bad.
That seems like a strange grouping of years for that kit to "fit" to me. For one thing, I thought that it seemed strange that it said it fits an FJ60 but only from 86 to 1990. What is the reasoning for this and is there any reason it wouldn't fit my 83(title) or 84 (model year)? I thought they didn't change, even with the 62 series. I don't know much about cruisers but it seems like a typo to me. The reason I ask is I want to buy one but don't want to have nice leaf springs staring at my truck that don't fit right.
Someone said in a previous post the only difference is the shocks...that they are somehow mounted differently on the 86-90 and would call for a different part. However, I just checked and Manafre makes no such distinction in their catalog for their lift kits. Maybe someone else can chime in here.
the different kits are based on the weight of the vehicle 3f with A440 weighs more than 2F with H41/42. I am 99.9% sure the dimentions (spring length) did not change. Check the FSM at birfield. com for chassis specs on pre and post '86 chassis.
If I am not mistaken this has been talked about on this very thread.
Dynosoar
If I am not mistaken this has been talked about on this very thread.
Dynosoar
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If that is the case then wouldn't the later model kit be the one to have for say an 84 sixty with an arb bumper/winch?
Why YES, I think you got the idea!
Dynosoar
(Just check the measurements in the manual to be sure)
Front (Spring Length) should be 1,058mm or 41.66" Rear should be 1,160mm or 45.67" This is from the Chassis section of the FSM (Aug, 1980) I could not get the later manual to download from birifield. (anyone have a late(er) model manual?)
Dynosoar
(Just check the measurements in the manual to be sure)
Front (Spring Length) should be 1,058mm or 41.66" Rear should be 1,160mm or 45.67" This is from the Chassis section of the FSM (Aug, 1980) I could not get the later manual to download from birifield. (anyone have a late(er) model manual?)
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Yes, the shock lengths are slightly different in the 1986-later 60 series. Not every aftermarket parts catalog recognizes this distinction.
Ok that makes sense then, I could actually use the stiffer ride because I am planning on welding up some heavy bumpers and eventually dropping in a 350, not to mention I have a sub box in the back of my cruiser that weighs 150 lbs that seemed to have lost me about 1 inch on my stock springs. Thanks for the replys. Are the shock mounts so different that those shocks won't work? Also does anyone know if that would make the shocks to long, too short or if just the way they mount is different? I'll do some research and see if I can find out, and if I find anything I'll post it up.
The response I got from Ironman was that the kits all had the same load rating. They will handle the weight of an arb on a 60. But they will only handle the weight of a 62 w/o accessories unless you add another spring to the pack.
I ordered a kit last night. I have an Oct '85 and ordered the "86-91 FJ60" kit off EBay. I looked at the Ironman website - they state their kits are for Oct 85 and later FJ60s. When I asked the Ebay auctioneer this was there response:
"The only difference between the years, according to Ironman, is the rear shocks. I think the only difference is they put a different sleeve in the shock. I didn't think there was a difference between the years either, but they have two different sleeves they use. The springs, u-bolts, everything in the kit is the same other than the different shock sleeve. Personally, I'd just use a different bolt if it didn't fit, but that's up to you. "
So I paid for it and will mess with the rear shocks if I need to...we'll see.
"The only difference between the years, according to Ironman, is the rear shocks. I think the only difference is they put a different sleeve in the shock. I didn't think there was a difference between the years either, but they have two different sleeves they use. The springs, u-bolts, everything in the kit is the same other than the different shock sleeve. Personally, I'd just use a different bolt if it didn't fit, but that's up to you. "
So I paid for it and will mess with the rear shocks if I need to...we'll see.
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Here is my finally complete Ironman set-up. 2" Ironman springs, MAF stainless extended brake lines, MAF 4" extended sway bar links, MAF shackle reversal, Ironman steering stabilizer, Heckethorn 4" lift shocks ( Have four semi used iroman shocks if anyone needs them ) and 2 1/2" SOR cheap ass rear shackles. Yeah, I know I need bigger tires, the fiance says I have to wear these out first. Grrrrrrrrrr.
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I have the BDS with a a S.R. and a friend has the Ironman...can't tell the difference in the ride.
What I am writing to say is that this is an EXCELLENT post. All the comments about the ride are subjective...like Jim said you give a little and you get a little. Nonetheless the pictures provided are a GREAT resource for the community. I really liked the two white cruiser pics...one with and one without the lift.
The only negative comment I can make is that you guys need to BIGGER TIRES...hoorah!
What I am writing to say is that this is an EXCELLENT post. All the comments about the ride are subjective...like Jim said you give a little and you get a little. Nonetheless the pictures provided are a GREAT resource for the community. I really liked the two white cruiser pics...one with and one without the lift.
The only negative comment I can make is that you guys need to BIGGER TIRES...hoorah!
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I know, I know. I want 34's so bad but we are renting now and looking to buy because we are recently engaged. Have to save .....Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Well,the rear shocks that came with this kit will not work on pre 10/85 60's due to the larger diameter opening in the bushings. Like ChiChi, I knew this, but couldn't pass up the great price!! Hopefully, Ironman will respond to my email regarding the proper bushings, or I'll be off looking for new rear shocks (any recommendation?).
I've only finished the rear at this point, and I like the new height (rear was sagging lower than the front).
Cheers and look for completion pic soon!
I've only finished the rear at this point, and I like the new height (rear was sagging lower than the front).
Cheers and look for completion pic soon!
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Update, I figured out the proper mounting of the AI tab (top/inside/facing rear). Problem now is the plate on one front shackle has stripped off the pin, so I cannot tighten the nut without the pin turning as well!! Will be getting it tack welded to get back on track.
ChiChi, any luck with your rear shocks? I contacted Energy Suspensions and they make 1/2 hourglass bushings with the 5/8" opening that I think will fit . Jegs has 'em for $5.99/set of 4, but they are backordered until 18 Oct. After some searching, I also found energysuspensionparts.com who does have 'em in stock for the same price.
The guy at Energy Suspensions seems to think these bushings will work, but judging by the way he berated my choice in lift kits, he is not an Ironman fan!!
ChiChi, any luck with your rear shocks? I contacted Energy Suspensions and they make 1/2 hourglass bushings with the 5/8" opening that I think will fit . Jegs has 'em for $5.99/set of 4, but they are backordered until 18 Oct. After some searching, I also found energysuspensionparts.com who does have 'em in stock for the same price.
The guy at Energy Suspensions seems to think these bushings will work, but judging by the way he berated my choice in lift kits, he is not an Ironman fan!!
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That's good stuff to know. I called the acc.liquidator folks from ebay. They are sending the rear bushings that they left out in my kit. So I haven't seen that they are too large. I was forwarned though from them. Is it possible to use a sleeve? I'll have more info when they arrive. Thanks for the update though and look forward to your report on the energy susp. bushings.
Good luck.
Good luck.
A word of visual experience..... I am going about lifting my FJ60 CHEAPLY and purchased rear Ironman 2 inch springs/bushings and front ironman shocks on ebay for $200, then front BDS springs and rear BDS shocks/u-bolts/frame and front spring bushings. The bushings I got with my BDS springs are IDENTICAL to the eye (color and everything, haven't looked for part numbers) to the Ironman Bushings. I don't know if these companies are related but they seem to be, because the overall spring construction seems to be the same as well, (clamps, leaf appearance, spring eye etc.) The rears are supposed to be 2 inch and the front BDS are supposed to be 2.5 inch, but I think I might be ok because IRONMAN seems to give the stinkbug lift. I plan on putting mine altogether and adjusting with shackles. We'll see. Is anyone putting extended brakelines on these smaller lifts? I don't plan on running mine SUA for much longer than my 32 inch tires last because Im going SOA and HAD to replace all the leafs (2 broken all bent stockers) and will have to put brake lines on anyway but wouldn't mind spending that money later as I just bought a welder as well, (1000 bucks at a time every 4-6 months or so is going to be my budget). I'll post back to show how the lift levels out on stock shackles. I got my parts (springs/bushings/ubolts/shocks) for a total of about 780 bucks so if it works well that's not bad price especially considering I've had to piece my lift together, I wish I bought the lift when they had em on Ebay for 550 but I just didn't have the dough. *long post I know bud edited to add* My Bds shocks came with 2 sets of bushings for what looks to accomadate 2 different bolt sizes in each box, so if you ordered the ironman kit and have an older 60 with different shocks in the rear, you may be able to contact a bds dealer and get the other set of bushings without buying new shocks, but I am not sure, spitting out an idea.
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