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I agree. A fresh 1fz-fe and 5 speed would probably be all it needed. Pretty much everyone that swaps a 5 speed into an 80 says it wakes that heavy sucker right up.
1fz-fe into an fj62
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It should be a really solid option. I really don't want even compare to the LS, it isn't about that as the LS is a really amazing swap for power and economy. This is just more like a game by a certain set of rules for me, in this case inline 6 powerplant, all one nameplate, and something a little more unusual.
The ultimate vehicle I have in mind would be a 62 body, 1fz-fe engine, 5 speed, 80 axles, 80 front suspension, upgraded interior but looks kind of factory (like Scheelmann seats done to match), better soundproofing, stereo/nav/connectivity, long range fuel capacity,and just an overall job of making it basically a new vehicle. It would cost a lot but I suspect it wouldn't be any more than an average new mid range suv. No big off road/wheeling stuff, just a sweet truck that can go around town, out to dinner, down the expressway, and to semi long distance events with friends.
Other than I have no time and no money for this, I'm going to get started right away
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When I estimate that cost that also means my free labor. That included would be a lot more I suppose. It should take around 500 to 600 hours to do it reasonably nice.
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@gonzopancho is putting a 62 body on an 80 frame and running gear right now...
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Goal is similar to @Waggoner5 ’s Project X^2, but Gary ran a 2UZ + a343f or a750f auto and mine has a 1FZ-FE, H151,
locked axles, and I’ll turbo it with the kit from @NLXTACY
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locked axles, and I’ll turbo it with the kit from @NLXTACY
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I said I wasn't going to do these builds anymore.... but temptation got the best of me today. All this stuff started popping up and I started thinking about a project that has ran through my mind since the first Project X. So this is what I have: Super clean, no rust, great running, 1990 White...
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FJ142 in the making
The work is being done at @green grass hopper's shop. Early stages. The FJ62 has been my wife's since 2005. Plan is a 1FZ-FE + A442F.
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Is it running and driving? If so, how do you like the performance vs the 3FE?
Performance should be night and day with twice as many valves, cross flow head that can actually breath, and another half liter of displacement. The tuning and performance possibilities are fantastic by comparison. The low end torque would be of interest though.
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One of the things I think most 80 series rigs is missing and needing, at least with larger tires, is a regear. My 80 used to have a supercharger and 4.88 gears, along with other mods for power and it hauled butt. I sold the supercharger so I could look at a Borg Warner efr sit in a box on my shelf for the last two years. In the interim I have been running on just the 4.88 gears (35" tires) and it still has way more go than my daughters 80 with stock gears and 35" tires, especially on the low end. I would guestimate that a regear is worth about 3 or 4 psi worth of boost, so to speak.
Sooo, to extend the thought, if one were to build the perfect 62 a regear should be part of the equation.
The only other thing that would be ultra nice if an auto is utilized, is to get @wardharris to offer the adapter for the a750 behind that 1fz-fe.
That would be even more perfecter.
Sooo, to extend the thought, if one were to build the perfect 62 a regear should be part of the equation.
The only other thing that would be ultra nice if an auto is utilized, is to get @wardharris to offer the adapter for the a750 behind that 1fz-fe.
That would be even more perfecter.
The old auto versus manual debate… For simplicity, with the A343 and 80 series transfer case work just fine? I guess you would have to Bypass the all wheel drive aspect of the transfer case?
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You could keep the all wheel drive. Some love it, some don't. The only thing about the a343, is that while a super tough transmission, it needs ecu control. Could be done but that would mean a stand alone controller just for that trans if it exists on top of the Haltech. Or you could stay with the factory ecu for the 80. Not terrible but I would really like to see how the Haltech can do with modern wideband O2 sensor control, and a MAP sensor instead of the factory MAF sensor to try to squeeze some power and efficiency against 90's technology.
If you had all wheel drive in a 60, would you have to have 80 front axle?
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No, the 60 axle will take it just fine. The beauty of the 80 case is how smoothly it distributes power, you won't really know it is there unless you put a big enough turbo on for 4 wheel burnouts in high range (why I dumped my SC because it could only chirp all 4, the Borg Warner EFR should light em up and break stuff lol).
Back on topic, I envisioned a well mannered, powerful, smooth, perfect Cruiser. I think either manual or auto can do this. I know lots of people think auto for the daily driver truck but that manual just becomes part of your life and other than drinking coffee on the commute, is not an issue. I like to be totally connected with my vehicle and nothing gets you in the game nearly instantly as a manual trans.
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Point well taken! There is definitely a connection to the rig that has a manual transmission...
Next question is: whose rig is going to go under the knife and make it a reality??
Next question is: whose rig is going to go under the knife and make it a reality??
well right now I have about $300/month of free income and that pretty much goes to paying off debt...soo probably not me for a while. I'm more in the carburator rebuild kit club right now
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This, and a bit more performance, is it, really. I find a lot more "joy" (in the Marie Kondo sense) driving a stick than I do an auto. I have an absolute plethora of Toyota trucks, and without a doubt, the one that is the most fun right now is the FJ55 with a 1.5F and H41 4-speed. This is why I'm putting an H151 in that build, and why I'm probably going to change the FJ40 from a 5.7 Vortec + 4L60E to a 5.7 Vortec + NV4500 + split case.
Some guys swear by autos when they run a turbo, as you can stay in boost more of the time. (The auto shifts faster than a human ever will, and you don't have to 'lift' with an auto.)
But it's just not as much fun.
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I love driving my '01 Chevy Silverado 2500HD work truck with the 8.1L (496 CID) V8 and ZF-6 6-speed manual transmission. Really quick for a full-size truck (regular cab long bed). Tons of torque. And it has a >60:1 crawl ratio. A lot more fun than the '09 2500HD crew cab with the Duramax diesel and Allison automatic transmission.
I love driving my '01 Chevy Silverado 2500HD work truck with the 8.1L (496 CID) V8 and ZF-6 6-speed manual transmission. Really quick for a full-size truck (regular cab long bed).
That's about as rare a truck as an FJ45 - and a bit faster.
That's about as rare a truck as an FJ45 - and a bit faster.
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Pulls a mean grade from Phoenix to Payson with ease, you can feel the raw power on the steady climb.
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Completed and running 1FZ
