1994 Limited Slip Differential?

[Keith Rundquist]

I'm looking at a '94 for sale on line and the owner posts in the ad, "This 4x4 DOES HAVE the automatic Limited Slip Differential system (automatic LDS system transfers power to the right and left wheels from the transfer case rear and front axles based on slip, traction and need)"

I know the center diff is a "limited slip" viscous coupling, but I've never heard of such a system in a stock LC for the F/R differentials. The interior pic in the ad doesn't appear to show the diff lock switch, so is there another option besides lockers and open diffs? Thanks.

 

[benjrblant]

Definitely not factory. I suppose it could have been added in theory, but a more likely explanation is that the seller isn't sure what they're talking about.

 

[LINUS]

Sounds like the seller is pumping his 80 up, or is misguided.

I'd call him & ask him what all was factory & what he has done to it - BS'ers are pretty easy to spot if you've seen 3-4 other 80's in person.

You know enough to know the dial, and prob the K294 / K292 door sticker so you can verify if he says it is all stock. (K294 is lockers if you were new to that one).

I'm betting since you been here ~5 years you have some decent lurking in researching these, yeah?

 

[Tapage]

We had plenty ( 99% ) of our 80 with factory rear LDS ( useless )

 

[Rifleman]

Definitely not factory. I suppose it could have been added in theory, but a more likely explanation is that the seller isn't sure what they're talking about.

I agree with this, the seller doesn't know what he's talking about, but it's great sounding B.S. to use on a potential buyer who doesn't know what their looking at.

 

[Mighty690]

On that note, I'm surprised how many people selling 80s on Craigslist state that the engine is a "V6." At least you know that they know nothing about engines, and probably the value of their rig.

 

[ppc]

All of you except Tapage are assuming that the vehicle the OP is referring to is a US market model. As I recall the LSD is a code K293 and sold in non-US markets.

 

[Imwhere]

I wouldnt worry about it and take it as open diffs both ends. Anything with LSD and Toyota in the same sentence is useless! Haha!

Ive had one rebuilt and shimmed up but by design they wear themselves out very quickly.

 

[LINUS]

All of you except Tapage are assuming that the vehicle the OP is referring to is a US market model. As I recall the LSD is a code K293 and sold in non-US markets.

You're right - I never bother with ROW specs if someone doesn't state they are buying a ROW spec'ed 80 or if their profile doesn't say they are out of NA spec'ed 80 range.

That said - yes.

K292 - open diffs
K293 - 3 pinion LSD / ROW only
K294 - locker diffs
K295 - 4 pinion LSD / ROW only

If people don't state some exception to why the USA spec stuff doesn't apply, I don't bother to say different either. Seems like there's always a asterisk to any hard & fast answer in life.
Despite living in spitting distance of a lot of RHD 80's in Canada, I still think "horses" not "zebras".

 

[panamacruiser]

What does ROW means? My 80 has K295 on the plate, it has no lockers (planning on getting at least one) no ABS and factory free wheel locking hubs

 

[LINUS]

ROW = rest of world

 

[panamacruiser]

Thank you Linus, that explains it, I live in Panama, I guess we are ROW for you guys

 

[LINUS]

Thank you Linus, that explains it, I live in Panama, I guess we are ROW for you guys

Yeah - not trying to be America-centric, I think the emissions on a later 80 is specific to the North American market (anyone correct me if wrong, emissions isn't a topic we really speak on much) - but if the Toyota is anything like how BMW worked in that era, the USA got 'Humpty Dumpty spec' compared to ANYWHERE else.

Notably: 1HT-D, subtanks, rear ac, console icebox.

BMW gave the USA really crappy "M3's" while the ROW got the real S50b30 / S50b32 motors. We got a lame S50 / S52 that was a joke comparatively. Canada even got the good motor, it was USA emissions that killed us.

 

[ZackR]

Although not as potent as the euro version my S52 M Roadster is plenty quick... and bulletproof. I do agree that in general the US got shafted on options from most manufacturers in that era. It was only after getting a cruiser I realized how many options we didn't even have available in the US.

 

[panamacruiser]

Linus, mine has 1HD-T, dual AC's, Dual fuel tanks, free wheel locking hubs, no ABS, no diff lock, OBD1 and IS a 1995 model...in the pics you can see specs and the controls for the AC and the subtank

 

[LINUS]

@panamacruiser -You just rubbing it in?

I should have spoke more definitively, the 'America-centric' remark should have been "USA-centric".

I think I get the point you're making, Central & South America seemed to be a mix of USA-spec & ROW-spec 80's, as I have understood.
Honestly Puerto Escondido, MX is as far South as I've been onroad, coming down from Tiajuana crossing - so to me the Venezuela -built 80's are even theoretical to me (If I saw one, I didn't know it at the time).

@ZackR - I like (well, within reason) the S52 & have a OBD1'ed one myself, but we both know the few S54 M roadsters & S54 motor in general is both superior & the motor-descendent of the S50b32. If we could get parts for Euro motors like before I'd pitch my S52, but that's me.

 

[Tapage]

on a related note .. we didn't get any 80 from Colombia or Venezuela .. all sold through Mr. T dealers came from Arakawa ..

 

[LINUS]

on a related note .. we didn't get any 80 from Colombia or Venezuela .. all sold through Mr. T dealers came from Arakawa ..

Where did those continuation 80's go? Any at all in Central / South America, or did they go to the mid-East & Africa then?

I would guess since they were a continuation they used a seperate distribution network than the Toyota dealer network but no proof. Were they even badged as Toyotas, or are they a seperate animal entirely?

Do you know enough to say if they followed the equipment spec of Toyota produced 80's?

 

[panamacruiser]

The last 80's I know of, where ensambled in Venezuela or produced there, they made them all the way up until 2006 I believe (no 100's there), but all 4.5 gasoline engines not sure about the specs of the cruisers themselves (inside I mean) that's all I can tell you...maybe Tapage knows more about it

 

[scottryana]

What kind of LDS, Tapage? Is it a clutch type or something more like a Torsen that uses gears?

We had plenty ( 99% ) of our 80 with factory rear LDS ( useless )