BJ60's up thru 83? had 4 speeds, I'm thinking HJ's also did as the 5 speed wasn't available until then. I know as I have one, I think it was from an 82 or 83 BJ60.
1987 FJ60 Value between a 4 speed and new 5 speed Transmission
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BJ60's up thru 83? had 4 speeds, I'm thinking HJ's also did as the 5 speed wasn't available until then. I know as I have one, I think it was from an 82 or 83 BJ60.
CenTXFJ60
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Rainer, as we discussed the other week, you may want to consider the marketability of your 60 when/if you decide to sell it. IMO a clean 60 will sell much quicker with a 5-speed. You will get more vs. a 4-speed, but not guaranteed to recoup the cost. Then the question is your overall investment (purchase price and repairs etc.) vs. the time to sell and if that works for you. And then what everyone else said about the drivability. I've had both and the 5-speed wins in my book.
This is a good thread.
One thing is you will never recoup your costs.
Even a rebuilt engine will not bring the value for a resell.
Maybe 1-1.5k but at 3+k for a good rebuild installed this is a huge loss.
5 speed will be the same.
The best way to do this is via an ROI.
How long do you think it will take you to recoup the cost in years?
For me that is close to 6 years to recoup my cost vs value of having a 5 speed.
That is based on fuel savings and wear and tear of not doing 3000 rpm at 65-70.
Value on a sale?, Will depend slot on the buyer.
But for most I have seen if you are lucky an extra grand.
One thing is you will never recoup your costs.
Even a rebuilt engine will not bring the value for a resell.
Maybe 1-1.5k but at 3+k for a good rebuild installed this is a huge loss.
5 speed will be the same.
The best way to do this is via an ROI.
How long do you think it will take you to recoup the cost in years?
For me that is close to 6 years to recoup my cost vs value of having a 5 speed.
That is based on fuel savings and wear and tear of not doing 3000 rpm at 65-70.
Value on a sale?, Will depend slot on the buyer.
But for most I have seen if you are lucky an extra grand.
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The transfer case is used every time the vehicle moves under its own power. Just because the truck doesn't spend much time in 4WD doesn't mean the transfer case is not being used. The typical wear parts in the transfer case are the bearings, shafts and gears that are in use whenever power is applied to the rear wheels. Rebuild the case based on vehicle mileage, not based on how much time it has spent in 4WD.
gregnash
Anal Retentive Analyst
I think you have the right idea but your ROI calculation is based on the number of years that the owner would be keeping it AFTER the expenditure. With these trucks your ROI really isn't based on a recoup of cost (ESPECIALLY when it comes to those based around fuel economy) but should be based on the purpose of the vehicle and whether or not that purpose is/can be achieved. If you purchase the 5spd specifically because you think it will save you money on maintenance and mpgs then you are partially incorrect because that equation isn't correct as the vehicle will still utilize gas expenditure and gain wear n tear regardless.
So the ROI would be whether the 5spd would more adequately take you to your favorite fishing spot in BFE better than the 4spd, thus taking into account increased MPGs AND lower gearing of the 5spd 1st gear allowing for 4wheeling easier.
Ultimately, if you are looking for a new tranny because you need one but the thought in your mind of possibly getting rid of the truck in the next few years has entered your mind more than once or twice recently then don't go for the extra spending on the 5spd.
4Cruisers
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I haven't seen reference to BFE in ages - I wonder how many others know right off the bat what the acronym stands for
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gregnash
Anal Retentive Analyst
LOL... does that officially make me an "old guy??!!"I haven't seen reference to BFE in ages - I wonder how many others know right off the bat what the acronym stands for
4Cruisers
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What, like me? We used that acronym in high school, even before my oldest FJ40 came off the assembly line. Now that's old.
gregnash
Anal Retentive Analyst
Ok maybe that makes me the "young old guy"?! Or the new comer... #$*% I am only 37!
4Cruisers
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Hey, what's another quarter century on top of that?
Back to technical - I decided to go with an H55f for my '86 FJ60 project (3FE, FJ62 4.11 axles, and BFG LT 235/85R16 ATs) for better driveability on long road trips in the southwestern US. I intend the '86 to last as long as I'm able to drive.
For years, the long road trips were in my stock '84 FJ60 with BFG 33X9.50/R15 ATs. The "rubber" overdrive was nice, but I also wanted a straightforward way to get lower gearing once I got to the 4WD roads and trails in BFE. I was considering installing my low mileage (~44,000 miles) H41 in the '84. My plans changed when I ran across a rust-free '86 FJ60 near my home in Nevada and a running '89 FJ62 with some body damage near my home in New Mexico. A few years ago I bought a new H55f from Cdan to finalize the drivetrain components.
I may end up selling the '84 in the near future, but don't plan on selling the '86.
