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Will the EMS mid pipes work with the DT catback?

Yes. The EMSPowered midpipes work with factory exhaust, EMSPowered exhaust, and also DT exhaust.
 
This is great!
But, we need a 'sale' on the mid pipes. ?de1c

Thank you guys for your effort - any updates or gains on the uzj100 air intake setup you guys were working on?

The midpipes will probably stay at the same price unless our production costs drastically go down. For now.the midpipes are staying at $199.

We will be doing dyno testing and releasing the EMSPowered high performance intake system for the 100-series Land Cruiser within the next month. I will post updates in the intake thread as we progress on the 100-series performance intake system.
 
Hi Yuji,
I apologize for the late response, we were tied up with the rush before the TX2K Supra national meet and the Texas Roundup Land Cruiser meet the last couple weeks. I'll get that email replied to for you and see about getting a silencer shipped out to you.

Thanks Baktash.

I've been rooting for you guys all along despite non contact (literally having to tell my shop to keep my money, you guys will ship / respond), so I'd appreciate it if wasn't a one way street.
 
Thanks Baktash.

I've been rooting for you guys all along despite non contact (literally having to tell my shop to keep my money, you guys will ship / respond), so I'd appreciate it if wasn't a one way street.

Yuji, emailed you yesterday and haven't heard back. I will try calling you when back at the shop tomorrow, Saturday. Best way for a quick response for.us is with a quick phone call.
 
Yuji, emailed you yesterday and haven't heard back. I will try calling you when back at the shop tomorrow, Saturday. Best way for a quick response for.us is with a quick phone call.

Hey Bak thank you for the call! I'm excited to install these suckers... who will do the welding? I have no idea.
 
Thanks for calling me yesterday and getting some mid pipe resonators out to me. Ill get them installed and report on the drone afterwards.

For all, I settled on four resonators for my mid pipes since I do not have cats and am super charged. This shouldn't effect the flow and hopefully quiet it down some.

Ok resonators didn't do as much as I would have liked. I guess next step is to switch to mid pipes with cats or try a different muffler?
 
Ok resonators didn't do as much as I would have liked. I guess next step is to switch to mid pipes with cats or try a different muffler?


This looks like a better idea. There is a thread in the 80 series thread on these where he didn't like the resonator and used this instead.

It is 3" IN and OUT with a 4" midsection and is Stainless.

Moroso Spiral Flow

Moroso PDF
 
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This looks like a better idea. There is a thread in the 80 series thread on these where he didn't like the resonator and used this instead.

It is 3" IN and OUT with a 4" midsection and is Stainless.

Moroso Spiral Flow

Moroso PDF

Were they used in the mid pipes then?
 
Were they used in the mid pipes then?

I think I posted the thread in an earlier post here.

I seem to remember them being put in the tailpipe.

I was looking at my tailpipe and the last straight section would work I think.

The Moroso's have 3" on each side that is meant to be cut or trimmed to fit.

The one I saw, they took all the extension off and welded just the bullet portion.


I don't see why it wouldn't work just as well in the midpipes, especially since EMS will install resonators in the midpipes as well as the tailpipes. They'll put in multiple resonators.

EDIT: Here's the thread: https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/607357-moroso-spiral-flow-muffler-installation-resonator.html
 
I think I posted the thread in an earlier post here.

I seem to remember them being put in the tailpipe.

I was looking at my tailpipe and the last straight section would work I think.

The Moroso's have 3" on each side that is meant to be cut or trimmed to fit.

The one I saw, they took all the extension off and welded just the bullet portion.

I don't see why it wouldn't work just as well in the midpipes, especially since EMS will install resonators in the midpipes as well as the tailpipes. They'll put in multiple resonators.

EDIT: Here's the thread: https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/607357-moroso-spiral-flow-muffler-installation-resonator.html

Ok here goes nothing. Going to give this a try next in the tail pipe.
 
Ok here goes nothing. Going to give this a try next in the tail pipe.


I'm curious how this works as well.


I am waiting for EMS headers(Since December), and when I install the headers and Catback, me thinks it will be a bit loud.

You can use one in the midpipe and one in the tailpipe if need be.
 
I think I posted the thread in an earlier post here.

I seem to remember them being put in the tailpipe.

I was looking at my tailpipe and the last straight section would work I think.

The Moroso's have 3" on each side that is meant to be cut or trimmed to fit.

The one I saw, they took all the extension off and welded just the bullet portion.

I don't see why it wouldn't work just as well in the midpipes, especially since EMS will install resonators in the midpipes as well as the tailpipes. They'll put in multiple resonators.

EDIT: Here's the thread: https://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/607357-moroso-spiral-flow-muffler-installation-resonator.html

I got this installed late last week and it helps a lot with the drone, also eats some power. Only way I have to tell us a local hill that I could climb in overdrive while doing 80mph in cruise control before installing the muffler, now the truck downshifts for the same hill. That being said I think the restriction actually helps my low end torque and reduces the drone significantly.

I'm sound dampening the back this weekend and will decide if I can live with the sound at that point.
 
I got this installed late last week and it helps a lot with the drone, also eats some power. Only way I have to tell us a local hill that I could climb in overdrive while doing 80mph in cruise control before installing the muffler, now the truck downshifts for the same hill. That being said I think the restriction actually helps my low end torque and reduces the drone significantly.

I'm sound dampening the back this weekend and will decide if I can live with the sound at that point.

Kewl News!

Don't suppose you got any PIX?

You know we like PIX!
 
I got this installed late last week and it helps a lot with the drone, also eats some power. Only way I have to tell us a local hill that I could climb in overdrive while doing 80mph in cruise control before installing the muffler, now the truck downshifts for the same hill. That being said I think the restriction actually helps my low end torque and reduces the drone significantly.

I'm sound dampening the back this weekend and will decide if I can live with the sound at that point.

That is awesome to hear! I do hear the backpressure helps with low end torque.

Based on what Rob is saying and EMS's original results, torque is increased vs stock across the entire range right?

Can you confirm the drone you're talking about typically happens under load going uphill? I do not get the drone down hill across the rev range.

Either way congrats man!
 
That is awesome to hear! I do hear the backpressure helps with low end torque.

Based on what Rob is saying and EMS's original results, torque is increased vs stock across the entire range right?

Can you confirm the drone you're talking about typically happens under load going uphill? I do not get the drone down hill across the rev range.

Either way congrats man!

At 2000-2400 which is about 70-80mph. No drone going down hill, very light drone across flat ground and a little more going uphill.

Les, I'll snap some shots shortly.

I have noticed the EMS catback leaks like a beast at the flanges going into the magnaflow muffler. I'm thinking about having the local muffler shop just weld it closed.
 
At 2000-2400 which is about 70-80mph. No drone going down hill, very light drone across flat ground and a little more going uphill.

Les, I'll snap some shots shortly.

I have noticed the EMS catback leaks like a beast at the flanges going into the magnaflow muffler. I'm thinking about having the local muffler shop just weld it closed.

Before you do that, check into some exhaust pipe doping compound.

I don't know if this is the best stuff or not. Let's look around some.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_muffler-&-tailpipe-sealer-(3-oz)-permatex_7020007-p

Here's another:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=WRTH-100045&catalog_description=Wurth%20Exhaust%20Assembly%20Paste%2C%20140%20gram%20tube
 
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At 2000-2400 which is about 70-80mph. No drone going down hill, very light drone across flat ground and a little more going uphill.

Les, I'll snap some shots shortly.

I have noticed the EMS catback leaks like a beast at the flanges going into the magnaflow muffler. I'm thinking about having the local muffler shop just weld it closed.
That sometimes happens if the clamps are over stretched from reinstallation or from over torquing. Shoot me a PM or email with your current address and we'll get a new set of 360 degree stainless steel band clamps shipped over to you.
 
That is awesome to hear! I do hear the backpressure helps with low end torque.

Based on what Rob is saying and EMS's original results, torque is increased vs stock across the entire range right?

There is significant torque and power increase across the entire power band with the EMSPowered Catback Exhaust system and also the EMSPowered Midpipes. We thoroughly dyno tested these in house. Dyno results are on the first page of this thread. Cut/paste as follows;

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DYNO RESULTS

Details on how we did the dyno testing:

* All runs done with shifter lever in 2nd gear and "2nd start" button depressed. This assures that we are able to start in 2nd gear and stay in 2nd gear throughout the entire run for the most stable and repeatable results. (numbers would be slightly higher across the board in 3rd gear, but on these trucks there is no way to keep it in 3rd gear without shifting).
* All dyno runs done in 2wd (rear wheels). Front driveshaft removed, center diff locked.
* This was on an LX470 that was totally stock except for 33" BFG tires.

Graph details:

1) Baseline dyno, all stock
2) Dyno with EMSPowered catback exhaust, everything else stock
3) Dyno with EMSPowered catback exhaust and EMSPowered high flow midpipes w/ dual cats (one cat in each pipe)

The first graph is UNCORRECTED numbers. Here at EMSPowered we like uncorrected dyno charts because they do not have any sort of arbitrary calculations that change the true numbers. Uncorrected DynoJet graphs show true power that is being made to the tires with NO other calculations. The second graph is STD correction showing what the numbers are with STD correction factor calculations (calculations to correct numbers based on air temperature, humidity, altitude, etc...). As I mentioned, here at EMSPowered we like UNCORRECTED numbers, as they are the actual numbers being put down with no trickery or weird calculations.


Uncorrected graph:

http://emspowered.com/images/produc.../uzj100_dyno_catback_midpipes_uncorrected.jpg


STD corrected graph:

http://emspowered.com/images/produc...zj100_dyno_catback_midpipes_STDcorrection.jpg
 
Just to chime is.

I purchased lesgarten's EMS midpipes and got them installed tonight (finally). Getting the old stuff out is a major PITA on a 1999 LC.

Anyways, I have had a cat related CEL since I purchased the truck a few months ago even after replacing all 4 o2 sensors.

After a SMALL amount of driving - including starts, stops, high and low speed driving - the CEL has remained off. So, I am pleased with that result!

I do have a DT catback system that I haven't installed yet - I am worn out after dealing with the midpipes but I mention this to point out that there is no real noticeable difference in the sound with ONLY changing to the EMS no cat mid pipes. Just in case someone was curious

Thanks for the high quality product.
 

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