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I would agree with many here; definitely an improvement over stock in so many ways. I do think I may have put a tad too much spring in the rear by adding 2721’s. They are absolutely perfect when we load the truck to the gills (packed rear cargo, roof box, trailer/ bike carrier)… however, around town I think they could be considered a bit harsh. Not a knock on the dampers as they are perfect up front and when I have enough weight on the springs in back, it is a really nice ride and I feel I have great control over the machine at speed. I may switch out the rear springs at some point as we have airbags in back but have yet to need them even when towing our Taxa Cricket loaded for camp…Long term Bilstein users - still happy? Long term review/impressions?
They seem to be finally available.
I believe I am on 4th perch upfront. And I don’t recall the OME rate conversions, but would probably revert back to something similar to stock rate or the recommended Bilstein standard for these. When we put on the 2721s we thought we would be towing a trailer close to max payload…. We are much lower than that today and thus maybe a bit heavy on rear spring rate…What's springs would you change to? What height is your front set at?
I agree with these comments. I have since moved back to stock rear springs with 30mm spacers and the front on 4th perch. This to me has been the sweet spot for stock weight (3rd row) I only have 0.5" rakeI would agree with many here; definitely an improvement over stock in so many ways. I do think I may have put a tad too much spring in the rear by adding 2721’s. They are absolutely perfect when we load the truck to the gills (packed rear cargo, roof box, trailer/ bike carrier)… however, around town I think they could be considered a bit harsh. Not a knock on the dampers as they are perfect up front and when I have enough weight on the springs in back, it is a really nice ride and I feel I have great control over the machine at speed. I may switch out the rear springs at some point as we have airbags in back but have yet to need them even when towing our Taxa Cricket loaded for camp…
5th and 2021 makes sense. I had more rake than I wanted when I had the 2721s on 4thAh ok, I'm planning on going 5th perch and SPC uca with 2721 rears, hoping it will be pretty level. I have removed the 3rd row also though..
Correct me if Im wrong, but it sounds like the standard rear coils from this kit has the same feel as stock 175#, and the newly available HD coils 400# are closer to what is offered as "standard" in most other kits ~350#.
Trying to figure out the best coil for my use case of a few hundred pounds of weight over the rear axle. Coming from a spec Miata, Im not overly concerned with stiffness.. but obviously don't want to take away anything from LC's positive attributes either.
I ran icon progressives. It gave me about 2" of lift in the rear. I really liked that setup when my truck was stock. I was on the 5th perch up front. Even with rear bumper and sliders. They still felt ok. But I needed more spring rate anytime I would load up for a trip after getting armor.Anyone switched to Bilstein Heavy Duty rear springs 53-297686 from or to OME 2721 (or Icon progressive spring) and can comment on the differences in height and differences under none/additional load?
Spring rates are on their site. I've had FCP shocks on a previous 100 and 80 series build. It's pretty damn good bang for the buck. I will say those are stiffer until they get warmed up and then feel more plush. It's hard to say which is a better setup.... I've never been very good at splitting hairs anyways though.Does anyone have any experience with these and Ironman FCP and how they compare?
Does Ironman publish their spring rates?
Spring rates are on their site. I've had FCP shocks on a previous 100 and 80 series build. It's pretty damn good bang for the buck. I will say those are stiffer until they get warmed up and then feel more plush. It's hard to say which is a better setup.... I've never been very good at splitting hairs anyways though.
Don't understand this concern. If something hits the remote reservoir, it'd hit the shock too, which means it'd hit any shock. IE, it's a problem for any shock....Thanks! Found the spring rares on their site as you mentioned! One aspect that concerns me, is the design of the rear Bilstein 5160 with the remote resi being right in the path of debris. That said, I'm not exactly a fan of the neon green coloring on Ironman springs either. Decisions.. decisions.
Don't understand this concern. If something hits the remote reservoir, it'd hit the shock too, which means it'd hit any shock. IE, it's a problem for any shock....