Sliders question

[eleblanc]

I've been thinking on how i'll be doing my sliders. First i thought of doing a tube that would be attach to the frame run right under the outer edge of the stock running board to go back to the frame. Then i changed my mind and decided to do like most do, use a plate to do a angle along the rocker panel and bolted to it, then use some 1 1/4" pipe to recreate the stock sliders shape and cover it with checker plate. Then do a other L angle bolted inside the rocker panel and thru the outer Angle, and attach that Angle to the frame.

But after talking with some Heep folks they told me that they don't do that because i shouldn't attach the body to the frame, since the body is not solidly attach to the body but with bushing. And they showed me just by shaking the heep body you could see the gap change between the rocker panel and there slider that are right under the body and not attach to the body.

But i see many people has done slider without considering this flex between body and frame. Here is a exemple (no offence)

https://forum.ih8mud.com/showpost.php?p=1094392&postcount=41

The reason why i wanted to do my second idea was to give more clearing under the rocker panel.

Also i notice that the stock setup doesn't either take this flex into account. There is a bracket from the frame body support to the outside of the rocker panel to hold the front of the running board. Maybe flex is minimal and the thin bracket holding the running board is not strong enough to cause issue.

So what you think, should i just go attach the slider to the frame and don't bother, or i could probably attach the sliders to the body mount front and rear (8mm bolt?) but i doubt that be strong enough.

 

[eleblanc]

Here is a option i have to fix the slider, look weak to me tho. I could do a 45 deg braket and go throught the floor, but i don't like the idea of bolts in the floor.

 

[camcruiser13]

who cares what the heeps think, i would attach it to the frame, why tie a roll cage into the frame?
strentgh, my fruend has an old heep and he think its cool how the body flexes more that the frame, what aint kool is when he flexed out, his pedals become useless, unable to brake accerl etc,

i see no reason to not have it to the frame,

 

[cntryguy]

if you think about it though, how much do you want your body to flex. I think you would be better off bracing up the body and keeping it from flexing as much as possible. I am going to incorporate my sliders into the body and attach it to the frame strong so the weight of the vehicle could rest on it if needed. I would rather have my body not flex than have my rocker panel crushed in by a big rock or tree. That is just my 2 cents worth though

 

[eleblanc]

if you think about it though, how much do you want your body to flex. I think you would be better off bracing up the body and keeping it from flexing as much as possible. I am going to incorporate my sliders into the body and attach it to the frame strong so the weight of the vehicle could rest on it if needed. I would rather have my body not flex than have my rocker panel crushed in by a big rock or tree. That is just my 2 cents worth though

I agree, and don't care about the flex of the body, i just don't see how it could flex anyway, but was wondering if anyone had problems due to this.

 

[landcrusher909]

slider

my buddy and i made these and i attached mine to the body and used the frame mount your talking about using a piece of 3 in channell i can high lift the who;e truck without a prolem and i have slammed these and have not had a problem so when the rest of the world says it wont work go for it

 

[landcrusher909]

slider

another shot

 

[eleblanc]

Show me how you attach it, to the frqme mount!

 

[wantatlc]

another shot

looks like your missing a bolt to tie in the rocker protection..

 

[2badfjs]

of course you can shake a jeep, it's a jeep.
cruisers are much more stout you should know this by now.

mount them any way you can, it's not gonna matter.
ask Mace on the board how he likes his rocker mounted set i made him, he beat his up pretty good.
i knew he would, thats why i sent him a set to try out for me.

 

[landcrusher909]

u guys dont miss a thing i took the pics when i first put them on 4 3/4 bolts and i will get a pic of the frame mount

 

[camcruiser13]

where my set 2 try out badfj.

im going to your site right now and picking them out

 

[2badfjs]

where my set 2 try out badfj.

im going to your site right now and picking them out

where were you when i posted up i needed someone to try out a set?
no one responded but two people and mace was on the ball. ;p

 

[camcruiser13]

probably sleeping

 

[landcrusher909]

sliders

heres they are all bolted up our first set and so far no problems and i have slammed them i figure using the frame bracket off the frame would be better than nothing and its worked out great for me others might want something welded to the frame

 

[landcrusher909]

more shots

more pics

 

[wantatlc]

heres they are all bolted up our first set and so far no problems and i have slammed them i figure using the frame bracket off the frame would be better than nothing and its worked out great for me others might want something welded to the frame

looks like you got your bolt put in now.

I have some sliders a buddy and I made and they are similar in that they are welded to angle iron with 6 bolts to the rocker. I have jacked up the rig using them and it seems solid, I do not worry too much about it.

(BTW, a period is a good thing to use )

 

[landcrusher909]

wantatlc checked out your web site nice sliders. have anything as far as diff protection thats our next project

 

[ColoCruiserJeff]

Sliders need to protect the sheet metal, not bend it in when it gets hit. I aggree, weld or bolt them to the frame...you'll be glad you did!

 

[JasonH]

Mine are mounted with bushings at the frame end. Only because the guy I bought them from said it was a good idea and I went with it. It's bolted to the body too. I've beat the crap out of them for 5 or 6 years now and there's no rocker damage on my Cruiser.

Most I've seen aren't mounted with bushings though, so I don't think you really need them.