Your thoughts on side ladders?

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Always wanted to build a pair of side ladders that would bolt up to my bumper loops and either connect to the rack or the gutter rails :hmm:

Threw together a couple of quick AI pix to see how they would look :meh:

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For now, I just climb up on the cooler and tire carriers to get on the rack :redface:


 
Any place where there are no tightly spaced trees or rocks they would be cool.
Personally I'd be concerned I'd peel them off on trees or rocks.
They look amazing on the African Savanna though, but it could be the Swedish Bikini Team that makes it appear that way.
 
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The 2nd type with all of the rungs in a straight down vertical line would seem safer, as the slanted design would probably cause me to break my butt falling off of it when my foot goes down expecting a rung - and it's somewhere else.

As a RTT user, I'd buy one for the passenger side. Out here in the Sonoran Desert, not too much risk of hitting anything that would cause a problem unless I tried really hard.

Tell AI the storage boxes swinging around 20ft behind the Cruiser need a red flag for traffic compliance,
 
I thought those storage boxes hanging out back there were an AI mistake as well till I watched the video.
How long have you had that set up?
The Mechanical Engineer me is having a panic attack thinking about the fatigue life of that system. I don't know when, but that thing is going to snap off and go bouncing down the hywy behind you some day.
 
I thought those storage boxes hanging out back there were an AI mistake as well till I watched the video.
How long have you had that set up?
The Mechanical Engineer me is having a panic attack thinking about the fatigue life of that system. I don't when, but that thing is going to snap off and go bouncing down the hywy behind you some day.

It's not really cruiser specific and actually used more on my minivan than anything, but I'm too lazy to drag the whole mess into the garage when I switch vehicles, so I just stick it on the back of the 80

Countless trips to Florida and back without issue




Just gotta fill the bags to level things out

 
I have one too. And like yours on the mini van its at less than half the distance of overhang. The long arm on the cruiser is what concerns me.
 
I have one too. And like yours on the mini van its at less than half the distance of overhang. The long arm on the cruiser is what concerns me.



I hear ya

It's been fine for road use, but I definitely wouldn't be hittin the dunes with it back there :doh:

The hitch receiver tube runs through the x-member and actually extends all the way to the rear winch mount just behind the axle where it's bolted down, so it's got good leverage :cool:


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If it's not the cargo carrier, it's a motorcycle or lawn tractor

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As long as he's not carrying the kids in those boxes, right?!?


No kids, only midgets :redface:

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Nice Hardtail!
 
Had a ladder on the side of my oz patrol for 40+ years. It's been down 1000's of k's of tight tracks and if anything, helps protect the bodywork.

Essential to access stuff on the roof. The rack bolts to the exoskeleton and mounts to the side bars. So all of it is basically tied to the chassis vs the body.

cheers,
george.


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I personally like the second design and like stated You only really need to worry if doing some hard wheeling and let's be honest 90% of us don't do that. I would go with what makes the most sense use wise and call it good. Also would do the drip rail as that would allow you to have it mounted even if you need to remove the rack for whatever reason.
 
If you can find them .... OEM had side corner steps

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Always wanted to build a pair of side ladders that would bolt up to my bumper loops and either connect to the rack or the gutter rails :hmm:

Threw together a couple of quick AI pix to see how they would look :meh:

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For now, I just climb up on the cooler and tire carriers to get on the rack :redface:



The thumbnail for that video reminds me of the time we put a couch on top of a Wagoneer...
 
Always wanted to build a pair of side ladders that would bolt up to my bumper loops and either connect to the rack or the gutter rails :hmm:

Threw together a couple of quick AI pix to see how they would look :meh:

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View attachment 4078551

For now, I just climb up on the cooler and tire carriers to get on the rack :redface:



I dig the two tone color way on your 80, very 60 series.
 
OEM steps all the way
 
So I have a side ladder.. I even have a patent on it. And it's probably the option I talk folks out of the most. Agreed it can be a tree catcher, rock finder, bling accessory, etc. But yes also somewhat useful, just not that needed in many cases. The big issue to consider (and basis for the patent) is when you connect the bumper to the roof rack, those need to move indepentently from each other. So when you come slamming off a ledge that shock doesn't immediately transfer to your roof rack. When I had my last 200 it was pretty useful as I put a Rotopax out there.. and occasionally used the ladder to get on the rack. I don't have one on the 80 currently. But I was still able to get this through "the squeeze" by Elephant Hill without issue, even with the awning on the other side. Here we are on the other side of that, at SOB hill
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and later in Chessler Park.. little better shot at how far this sticks out.
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The ladder alteratives all seem to be better- rear swingouts with ladders, or just step the rear tire... or realize you don't need to be on top of the rack at all, most of what you're doing is from standing on the back tire. On the 200 above for example it was pretty easy to step on either the bumper's ladder or tire, only downside is you have to first put the hatch down.

The other good alternative are those door steps.. from the step a roof rack is about mid thigh, so pretty easy to hop up the rest of the way. But not a good solution for getting into/out of a tent, IMO, as you have to leave the door open. here's a pic of the door step:
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and yeah I sell all this stuff but not the point of the post really. Just wanted to offer some insight from experience. LMK if you want more detail... :cheers:
 
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