Why can't an 80 flex like..... (1 Viewer)

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How did Ben's rig handle on the highway? I guess at this point I'm willing to do without gobs of flex if it means the rig is going to be a PITA driving it everyday and on the long trip to go wheeling.
 
I think the ideal situation would be to build the suspension to be able to flex nearly like that (maybe not quite that extreme) but have the sway bars control it while on the road. THen you could quick-disconnect the sway bars and flex your way down the trail.
 
Could bushes on the radius arms be converted to hold a similar eye to what an Agricultural uses at the end of the lifting arms on the 3 Point linkage? This is a solid swivel bushing or perhaps some sort of rose bush. In fact the top link of a three point linkage may be even better as it has a turn buckle adjustment for length which would also allow twisting to take place.
 
Gold Finger said:
Could bushes on the radius arms be converted to hold a similar eye to what an Agricultural uses at the end of the lifting arms on the 3 Point linkage? This is a solid swivel bushing or perhaps some sort of rose bush. In fact the top link of a three point linkage may be even better as it has a turn buckle adjustment for length which would also allow twisting to take place.


I was thinking the exact same thing. hmmm.....
 
Gold Finger said:
Could bushes on the radius arms be converted to hold a similar eye to what an Agricultural uses at the end of the lifting arms on the 3 Point linkage? This is a solid swivel bushing or perhaps some sort of rose bush. In fact the top link of a three point linkage may be even better as it has a turn buckle adjustment for length which would also allow twisting to take place.

The joints you are describing are typically referred to as Heim joints. The problem with using heim joints is that they allow the wrong type of deflection necessary. They allow articulation of the joint, but not misalignment of the center of the bushing, which is what is necessary. As for using tractor top links as links in a suspension, it's a bad idea. An acquintance of mine did it on his trail rig and they would become very sloppy and then break in a short period of time.

Ary
 
sleeoffroad said:
Well, bring it to Golden and we will do it. Articulation is not the end all do all. See pictures on the bottom of the Gigantor page. I will put $5 on that it rolled due to the suspension unloading when climbing those steps. Nasty side effect of making an 80 with gobs of travel.

Anyway, Bens was made with custom links. Converter to a 3 link with panhard. Long shocks and no swaybar.

Not looking for flex like those rigs. What I'd like is a few more up-front inches so it better matches the rear.
 
I think someone came out with another joint similar to a Johnie joint, was it Rubicon express? It's a rebuildable joint and all kinds of movement. But, I suppose if you have lockers then extreme flex isn't necessary, but it sure does look cool however!
 
I'm the one selling Ben's old truck, currently mine, with the front sway bar on it handles really well on the highway and in cornering, of course 37" tires like to ride the ruts, but other than that it's a really comfy ride, Brad.
 
sleeoffroad said:
Shotts, remove your swaybars and you will be much happier. If you do not fit longer shocks, nothing that you do is going to make a difference.

WHAT?! WHOA!! Are you psycic (do you spell it that way?)? I removed them yesterday and have a very difficult run scheduled Saturday. (Walt Philips is coming) I'll see how it does. I'm OK with leaving the 80 that way, though I'm afraid I'll want the 100 that way too but I can't cuz it's a daily driver.
 
concretejungle said:
I think it's the sway bars. Look at ammos rig. Only thing he's done is remove the sway-bars. He's got some serious flex. Remove your sway bars and see what happens.


No Sways, EMU 3" + 2" body= true 35's on 17's NO RUB anywhere still some coil to compress even in this pic, before the bumps come in to play. Very important to note NO flairs... Wheel offset is also important.
 
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AMMO said:
No Sways, EMU 3" + 2" body= true 35's on 17's NO RUB anywhere still some coil to compress even in this pice before the bumps come in to play. Very important to note NO flairs... Wheel offset is also important.

How about a bigger pix of that beast?
 
ShottsUZJ100 said:
How about a bigger pix of that beast?


Ask and yeee shall receive: Sorry, taken from a movie...
 
I dont mean to steal the thread, but.... I noticed the intercooler that runs under the front frame and in the grill on Ben's rig. Where can I find out more?
 
Rainy Day FZJ said:
I dont mean to steal the thread, but.... I noticed the intercooler that runs under the front frame and in the grill on Ben's rig. Where can I find out more?

Not sure about the cooler, but if you like the rig, why not buy it... It's in the for sale section
 
alia176 said:
I think someone came out with another joint similar to a Johnie joint, was it Rubicon express? It's a rebuildable joint and all kinds of movement. But, I suppose if you have lockers then extreme flex isn't necessary, but it sure does look cool however!

I did new front control arms and went with custom jionts (jimmy joints) rebuildable and super slick, with bigger bushings. It wasnt all about flex as much as pinion angle and lift amount. here is a pic..... mine flexes welll and you always seem to want more but i dont want to go any higher......
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NW-sickboy said:
I did new front control arms and went with custom jionts (jimmy joints) rebuildable and super slick, with bigger bushings. It wasnt all about flex as much as pinion angle and lift amount. here is a pic..... mine flexes welll and you always seem to want more but i dont want to go any higher......

Are you using a typical radius arm setup w/ 2 y-arms? I'm familiar with Jimmy Joints and have used them before. I don't see how you alleviated any bind from the suspension with this setup. In order to eliminate bind w/ y-arms you have to remove one of the legs from one side..... That's how my Jeep was.

Perhaps I misunderstood the pic....

Ary
 
Hey sickboy, is there anyway to get a better pick of your radius arm mounts? You know, just a couple of pics of the fabbed suspension.
 
I can look and see if i have a better pic...... may have to take another.......

It is your typical Y arms set up (although its adjustable), the arm is longer than stock wich gives a little more room to twist without binging..... I definitly do not have the "flex" as shown on Bens old ride but they have turned out well for me. My caster/pinion angle is back to stock, I have more "flex" and its enough..... I am done pushing the limits of my 80 for now as i am pretty happy with where its at.
 

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