Who's running TrXus MT 37x12.50R16L? (1 Viewer)

[cody c]

TrXus has been my go-to tire for a few years now. Since I run true beadlocks most big name tire shops will not balance them. I finally invested in a cheap old-school bubble balancer and a pile of stick-on weights. I rebalance them every 5K or whenever I start to feel a wobble.
Bubble balancing may not necessarily work well for lateral imbalances, but frequent balancing made a big difference for me. I've prevented the cupping I used to get and prolonged the life of the tire since doing this.

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Up here I know some of the oil patch trucks (3/4 ton GM’s) that were working on greasy muddy construction sites were doing like a 1-2” body lift and using the trxus MT tires, they said they had the best of on road and muddy construction site performance and were reasonable for winter, I think one company did that to about 20-30 of their fleet trucks, so they must be pretty adequate.

Your beadlock wheels look a pinch narrow for the rubber, interesting setup and good to hear your feedback on these

 

[Squeegee]

At first blush, the Patagonia MT is the modern Trxus. I just went to 38x12.5, and what sold me was a) seeing the level of traction my son was getting out of these on his Taco both in wet and on rocks and b) realizing that this tire is rounded like Trxus and also meant to be run on the inner part of the tread.

This aids stuffing into the wheel wells offroad vs. a squared off tire, riding quiet, and tracking better just like Trxus. I had more trouble with 37” ko2 that are an inch smaller than Trxus and a lot of trouble with 37” STT Pro that are a full size 37, requiring more trimming. So much so that the 38’s fit.

The Milestars balance up easily, one required 6 oz and the rest were 2-3. My son is putting himself through school working at Discount Tire and hears first hand how much people love this tire.

It rides soft, tracks perfectly, and is very quiet. You can see the intended contact patch staying off those outer lugs, just like Trxus but without the Interco three stage lug design. Snow performance is outstanding, including blizzard. You want Trxus without old school manufacturing? Here’s your pony.

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I think these can be a little hit and miss. My friend has a set of these and he hasn’t been super happy with them. They are extremely sensitive to road condition, they’ll ride smooth on the highway on one surface and then vibrate your teeth out 10 minutes later. They’re wearing extremely slowly, which is great, but they offer little to no traction offroad. On multiple trips he’s struggled over obstacles he crawled over with his last set of tires. He ran two sets of wildpeaks and regrets going with pategonias.

But it seems like your experience with them is EXTREMELY different. So I feel like he might have gotten unlucky on his set.

 

[Broski]

I have witnessed the same thing, People running the Patagonians struggling on obstacles and others walking right up.

 

[Nay]

It’s interesting to see the reviews. My son had a set of 35’s on his Taco and they were flat out excellent in wet rocks and pulled a few granite climbs that surprised me once they heated up with a bit of spin.

I’ll report back - I was the Trxus evangelist for years and have wanted a more modern take on that tire. Just first impressions on dry pavement and really ugly winter for now for the Patagonia, but it’s really difficult to have that type of winter traction and then fail at more basic stuff.

Also more companies need to make 38s. 37 to 40 is a ridiculous jump.

 

[Nay]

I haven’t had problems with lateral balance until the tires got about 50-60% worn and then it would only crop up between 45-50 mph and usually only on a curve in the road. There is plenty of testimony to the difficulty folks have had trying to get many brands of tires in larger sizes to balance out and stay balanced. Got rocks and snow?

That’s part of the equation - I used to say that if money was no object I’d run Trxus and change them out every 15K. I’m not sure I would now, because there’s no reason to put up with a clamshell mold tire in 2021.

The big thing that has changed is how good big tires are now with the brodozer market. The Coopers I took off were at 19K, never took an ounce of rebalance, ran smooth at 90 mph, and still had 16/32 tread equally on all four with zero irregular wear. I had rotated them 3 times total. This is literally impossible with Trxus on several fronts.

One of the reviews of the Patagonia was an 80 series owner who said it was the only tire he’d run that was winter comparable to Trxus.

I agree so far. After our major blizzard I was rolling down the packed highway passing everybody (yes, my rear locker light is always on). All we can really do is pick what we want to try and see how it goes. I figure I grooved and siped a set of Trxus to keep them alive so all bets are good.

I’ve been placing my bets that the most modern tire is the best tire for my last 5 sets on various rigs and that’s held up very nicely so far. We put the new Yokohama MT on our ‘04 Sequoia in a 34” and a ‘99 4Runner in a 35”, replacing Falken Wildpeak AT3W in both cases, and the Yokohama is just better, this coming from someone who sings the praises of that Falken. Tires are improving exponentially, even over stuff like the Cooper STT Pro and Falken AT3W that were both released in 2016.

We have 35” Maxxis Razor MTs on a 2001 4Runner that came new with that truck when we bought it, and they have kicked ass in winter so far as well. Compounds are so good these days.

 

[baldilocks]

That’s part of the equation - I used to say that if money was no object I’d run Trxus and change them out every 15K. I’m not sure I would now, because there’s no reason to put up with a clamshell mold tire in 2021.

The big thing that has changed is how good big tires are now with the brodozer market. The Coopers I took off were at 19K, never took an ounce of rebalance, ran smooth at 90 mph, and still had 16/32 tread equally on all four with zero irregular wear. I had rotated them 3 times total. This is literally impossible with Trxus on several fronts.

One of the reviews of the Patagonia was an 80 series owner who said it was the only tire he’d run that was winter comparable to Trxus.

I agree so far. After our major blizzard I was rolling down the packed highway passing everybody (yes, my rear locker light is always on). All we can really do is pick what we want to try and see how it goes. I figure I grooved and siped a set of Trxus to keep them alive so all bets are good.

I’ve been placing my bets that the most modern tire is the best tire for my last 5 sets on various rigs and that’s held up very nicely so far. We put the new Yokohama MT on our ‘04 Sequoia in a 34” and a ‘99 4Runner in a 35”, replacing Falken Wildpeak AT3W in both cases, and the Yokohama is just better, this coming from someone who sings the praises of that Falken. Tires are improving exponentially, even over stuff like the Cooper STT Pro and Falken AT3W that were both released in 2016.

We have 35” Maxxis Razor MTs on a 2001 4Runner that came new with that truck when we bought it, and they have kicked ass in winter so far as well. Compounds are so good these days.

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The coopers are tempting but the others not so much.

 

[Nay]

The coopers are tempting but the others not so much.

That’s a really good tire, but it won’t stuff as well since the tread is squared off - I had to do quite a bit of extra trimming compared to Trxus, which is actually why the 38” Patagonia stuff so well.

It’s a better tire than Trxus, though, by a lot, and cheaper. And you know I love Trxus.

Best thing about Trxus is 37x16 if you love stock rims, really no other good choice....

 

[baldilocks]

That’s a really good tire, but it won’t stuff as well since the tread is squared off - I had to do quite a bit of extra trimming compared to Trxus, which is actually why the 38” Patagonia stuff so well.

It’s a better tire than Trxus, though, by a lot, and cheaper. And you know I love Trxus.

Best thing about Trxus is 37x16 if you love stock rims, really no other good choice....

There is nothing about the STT Pro that looks like it could get with the trXus in the snow. It’s a true mud tire. I’m not sure that I “Love” the stock wheels but they have worked well so far down to 4psi in deep snow. They are true and lightweight.

I tend to stick with something for a while once I know how it works. Been driving the same pickup for 16 years.

 

[Nay]

There is nothing about the STT Pro that looks like it could get with the trXus in the snow. It’s a true mud tire. I’m not sure that I “Love” the stock wheels but they have worked well so far down to 4psi in deep snow. They are true and lightweight.

I tend to stick with something for a while once I know how it works. Been driving the same pickup for 16 years.

They are better than you’d expect, so much is compound.

Here’s a long term review of the Patagonia that’s about as relevant as we can get. 37” on an 80 series, author went from Trxus to ko2 to Patagonia - exactly my path except I did STT Pro in the middle.

Milestar Patagonia M/T Tire Review - Off-Road.com

The Milestar Patagonia M/T might not be familiar to a lot of off-road aficionados, but it is a very capable tire in a variety of conditions. Check out our revie...

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Here are some STT Pro vids on ice. Always important to remember that this is cold dry ice, not wet near freezing ice, but we don’t get much of that a thousand miles from the ocean.

 

[Nay]

Revising this old thread for posterity sake. My experience with the Patagonia remains: they crush winter. For wheeling, at least in Colorado, these things climb walls. But it is important to note that I’m on 38’s now and this is a lot more tire than a 37 and I’m not talking about BFG 37 that’s really a 35.5.





I do concur that there is likely some hit or miss - I put them in a 35x20 on the new to me 2008 Sequoia and that’s an F load tire in that application. It’s a little bit unrefined, not sure I’d do it again, although the traction performance is there. Those big pigs with four wheel independent suspension like to slide around and that’s gone.

Tires are stupid expensive right now, I paid $266 ea instead of in the $400+ range. You just have to nail the PSI with this tire so that the outer lugs are curved up and out of contact - it’s designed to be run that way and the “chalk test” PSI approach won’t work, just like Trxus.

 

[Nay]

Another vid since you can only embed two per post. Just so little traction here, lol. I mostly just look for stupid lines now and see if it will climb, which is does, and then I don’t have enough guts to just go for it when body damage risk is high. It walked up the left Whales Tale buggy line on this obstacle, but if you slip off to the left it gets ugly and I just didn’t want to find out.

 

[baldilocks]

Ironically I viewed these same videos yesterday but with respect to the new VT coil springs which, for some reason, my mind is telling me I need when my current set up works very well especially when loaded which is not your version of loaded.

What’s your real point here? I’m not buying those tires, not if the trXus is still made. I was forced to a different tire this time bc Interco had to shut down production in 2020 bc you know why, and they couldn’t deliver on time. I chose another American made tire called Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ P3. Yes, slightly less vertical satisfaction but a good looking tire that does have modest siping (which I will add to) and works quit well in deep snow as well as rocks.

I’m glad that there are dude’s who know what’s it’s for and use it that way. The white fender rocks and, I’m finding out, is rather rare. I could use one about now.

 

[Broski]

But it is important to note that I’m on 38’s now and this is a lot more tire than a 37 and I’m not talking about BFG 37 that’s really a 35.5.

I don't think those 38s are that much more of a tire then the TrXus which are a true 37" tire I know because I was running them just before my current Tires.
The Trxus are extremely good tire that excel off road and in the rocks. there almost magical there that good.
I also know that the Patagonia's 38s are closer to a 37.5 so not really a big gain in size.
I don't live in the snow so I can't say about that but off road in the rocks IMHO the TrXus is a far superior tire then the Patagonian's
Again I have on experience street driving in the snow, But the Kanati Mud Hogs 39/12.5 I'm running now seemed to out climb both the guys running Patagonian tires on our last trip to Sand Hollow. I don't know if I would say there as good as the TrXus but there dam close. The Mud Hog are not a true 39" either more like a 38.5 but a notably bigger then the 37" TrXus I was running before.

 

[baldilocks]

I don't think those 38s are that much more of a tire then the TrXus which are a true 37" tire I know because I was running them just before my current Tires.
The Trxus are extremely good tire that excel off road and in the rocks. there almost magical there that good.
I also know that the Patagonia's 38s are closer to a 37.5 so not really a big gain in size.
I don't live in the snow so I can't say about that but off road in the rocks IMHO the TrXus is a far superior tire then the Patagonian's
Again I have on experience street driving in the snow, But the Kanati Mud Hogs 39/12.5 I'm running now seemed to out climb both the guys running Patagonian tires on our last trip to Sand Hollow. I don't know if I would say there as good as the TrXus but there dam close. The Mud Hog are not a true 39" either more like a 38.5 but a notably bigger then the 37" TrXus I was running before.

Strong argument.