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Fitted a Sabre spliced winch thimble today, compact design, very smooth machined Cerakote finish, fits and locks into hawse and at only 200g (7oz) it has significantly reduced the metal in the recovery system. Did a brummel and deep bury splice, thanks youtube, also a very handy skill if you have to repair a winch rope

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Installed some new speakers in the front doors, b/c the PO gutted all the door speakers, tweeters, and sub-woofer. The speakers in the rear doors are now working and sound great. The front door speakers are producing sound, but it's muffled. Looks like I will be troubleshooting that this weekend.

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Just picked it up from the powder coaters. The wheels turned out great! Painting the brake rotor hubs and adding Spidertrax 1.25" spacers tonight


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jbyrd78 said:
Installed some new speakers in the front doors, b/c the PO gutted all the door speakers, tweeters, and sub-woofer. The speakers in the rear doors are now working and sound great. The front door speakers are producing sound, but it's muffled. Looks like I will be troubleshooting that this weekend.

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I would guess that the amplifier has multiple outputs for each door (woofer, mid, and tweeter). I have't taken one apart before, but i would guess at least 2 channels, and probably simple high pass filter on the tweeter. But in the stock system the lower door speaker is only meant to play bass. You will need to get a speaker to plug into the higher frequency output as well to balance that out.
 
lx200inAR said:
I would guess that the amplifier has multiple outputs for each door (woofer, mid, and tweeter). I have't taken one apart before, but i would guess at least 2 channels, and probably simple high pass filter on the tweeter. But in the stock system the lower door speaker is only meant to play bass. You will need to get a speaker to plug into the higher frequency output as well to balance that out.
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So the front driver side and passenger side door 6x9's are the bass speakers? My rear driver & pass door speakers are crystal clear, as well as all the dash speakers.
 
sorry, tried to edit my last post in time, but got tied up. Here's a crappy post where stuff may be out of order..haha

The short answer is, yes, the lower front door speaker is a bass driver. The below explanation is why the rear door speakers are probably more full range. (I'll qualify all this with the fact that I have an LX, and i know this is true with the LX. While the systems are different, this is all really just general modern OEM car stereo stuff. I would have made the same suggestions if i didn't know what type of vehicle you were talking about)

I found a diagram of the 200. It looks like the high freq speakers are in the dash and A pillar on the LC for the front. Are those functioning, if they are, then your system is probably working as normal (but maybe out of balance). If they are gone as well, that's where you need to look to return to full spectrum sound in your "Front stage". Looks like the rear door speakers have a tweeter as well. It depends on how that was wired in, but it's possible that a full spectrum signal is sent to the rear door and split between the tweeter and the main driver with another HPF on the tweeter, which is why they have full range output. On the rear door, it's also possible you are missing the spectrum normally driven by the tweeter and just can't tell....as we age we can't really hear those frequencies well anyways.

The front stage is almost certainly going to have some DSP/Crossovers dividing freq spectrum between different speakers, especially since there is a mid range driver. My comment about balance above refers to the fact that you probably replaced a 2ohm speaker with a 4 ohm speaker, and if all other things were equal, that would mean you are not using as much power to drive the speaker. It's also possible that the aftermarket speaker is more efficient to offset some of those losses. If you think they are too quiet, you could probably just bump the bass knob a little and reasonably approximate the original power level.
 
See post #158 in the SQOD Squad - Stupid Question Of the Day thread by @Willy beamin Copied below:

Stopped in my local audio shop today to see what the cost and or parts needed would be for an upgraded sound system. I was told our (LC's) have a proprietary system ( speakers, amp) and that you cannot simply switch out speakers without changing our amp due to the low watts they (OE speakers and amp) pull.

If you did just address the speakers only then the new sound level would be half of the volume we experience, now, at stock because the after market speaker world makes speakers that pull / need more watts
Than our OE system can push. If I have not used the correct audio industry terms pardon me.

I ran into this with my 2003 Excursion as well. They said that the way Ford wired the system I would need to completely rewire with a new amp to get where i wanted. Just adding speakers would cut the volume in half and sound like crap.
 
Added a marine cutoff switch (600 A capacity) to the winch power line and SDHQ battery terminals for connecting the winch up. Enlarged all the winch's cable end lugs to 1/2" so I could mount them on the larger bolts on the sides of the new terminals and the back of the cutoff switch. The radiator airflow cowl / shrowd blocks the switch from above, but it is easily accessible through the openings in the front of the rhino bumper.

Unfortunately, raised portion on the SDHQ terminals aren't quite tall enough to accommodate the downward-reaching tabs on the OEM battery cable connectors, so I had to slightly bend the cable tabs so they wouldn't interfere anymore.

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Dunbar said:
See post #158 in the SQOD Squad - Stupid Question Of the Day thread by @Willy beamin Copied below:

Stopped in my local audio shop today to see what the cost and or parts needed would be for an upgraded sound system. I was told our (LC's) have a proprietary system ( speakers, amp) and that you cannot simply switch out speakers without changing our amp due to the low watts they (OE speakers and amp) pull.

If you did just address the speakers only then the new sound level would be half of the volume we experience, now, at stock because the after market speaker world makes speakers that pull / need more watts
Than our OE system can push. If I have not used the correct audio industry terms pardon me.

I ran into this with my 2003 Excursion as well. They said that the way Ford wired the system I would need to completely rewire with a new amp to get where i wanted. Just adding speakers would cut the volume in half and sound like crap.
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that audioshop is semi-right.... but the LC is not so proprietary that you can't get around it and keep your stock amp. @lx200inAR is correct in that you're changing out speakers with higher impedance (ohms)...most aftermarket speakers are 4ohm. The cruiser's factor speakers are ~2ohm so you have to find aftermarket 6x9s for those front doors that are the same load. These do exist, you just have to search specifically for them - I know CDT makes them (i own a pair) - i would also look in Focal integration for toyota. Other posts about there being a frequency filter are also correct - if you use your existing wiring, your front 6x9s will only play midbass. the tweeters in the A pillar and 4 inch speakers in the dash will all handle the highs. Rear doors are full range, even though factory includes a separate tweeter.
 
TomCruis said:
that audioshop is semi-right.... but the LC is not so proprietary that you can't get around it and keep your stock amp. @lx200inAR is correct in that you're changing out speakers with higher impedance (ohms)...most aftermarket speakers are 4ohm. The cruiser's factor speakers are ~2ohm so you have to find aftermarket 6x9s for those front doors that are the same load. These do exist, you just have to search specifically for them - I know CDT makes them (i own a pair) - i would also look in Focal integration for toyota. Other posts about there being a frequency filter are also correct - if you use your existing wiring, your front 6x9s will only play midbass. the tweeters in the A pillar and 4 inch speakers in the dash will all handle the highs. Rear doors are full range, even though factory includes a separate tweeter.
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Yep. This tracks with what I understand as well. If anyone finds some good 2 Ohm speakers that work well with the Factory amp... I'm all ears.
 
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