What have you done to your 200 Series this week? (12 Viewers)

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Went in for a smog check and found myself surrounded by some cool 80's and 90's Toyotas.

The 4Runner had tires of various sizes and was struggling to pass smog, the Corolla GT-S was bone stock but getting new "track tires" installed, and the Tercel was strangely equipped with various frame stiffeners and drilled/slotted rotors up front. Fun, odd cars.
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Then at the back of the parking lot, I spotted this beauty. It had Canadian license plates and quite a few spiderwebs.
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150 miles in the Mendocino National Forest. It was really smoky and dusty but awesome nonetheless.

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No, they are "Made in the USA." They are the exact same parts you would get in a Toyota/Lexus box. Both tensioner's are stamped "Dayco." I look around on the Tundra forms if I can't find info about are 200's on here. That's how I found out about Dayco being OEM manufacturers for those parts.
This accurate @Onur Dayco makes belts and rollers on front of Japanese made 3UR?
 
In preparation for our move out west to Colorado next month I’ve been trying to get the 200 all squared away since I have a lot of space to work on it in PA. I’m pretty much on schedule with all my maintenance items at this point ( last thing I’ll be doing is brakes and wheel bearings next week).
I was also able to make some fun improvements to the truck as well. I’ve been accumulating parts over the last few months and finally found the motivation and time to get almost everything installed. Sliders and all new suspension went on last week. Next week, my bumper should come back from paint. I’ll have it installed with my winch shortly.

I went from Tough Dogs to properly tuned Kings and it feels night and day, now that everything is settled in I’m really happy with how it all turned out. I’m a touch stiff in the front with my 650# springs. The bumper should clear that right up. I’m also at about an inch of preload up front, the second inch should give way more than what I need to maintain my ride height with the bumper and 650s.

disregard the resi line hitting the control arm so aggressively. I was making quit a few adjustments and moved it over to access my preload easier. It is back facing strength down now.

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In preparation for our move out west to Colorado next month I’ve been trying to get the 200 all squared away since I have a lot of space to work on it in PA. I’m pretty much on schedule with all my maintenance items at this point ( last thing I’ll be doing is brakes and wheel bearings next week).
I was also able to make some fun improvements to the truck as well. I’ve been accumulating parts over the last few months and finally found the motivation and time to get almost everything installed. Sliders and all new suspension went on last week. Next week, my bumper should come back from paint. I’ll have it installed with my winch shortly.

I went from Tough Dogs to properly tuned Kings and it feels night and day, now that everything is settled in I’m really happy with how it all turned out. I’m a touch stiff in the front with my 650# springs. The bumper should clear that right up. I’m also at about an inch of preload up front, the second inch should give way more than what I need to maintain my ride height with the bumper and 650s.

disregard the resi line hitting the control arm so aggressively. I was making quit a few adjustments and moved it over to access my preload easier. It is back facing strength down now.

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Can you describe night and day? Man I have tough dog shocks and I really want to drive your truck and feel the difference.
 
Can you describe night and day? Man I have tough dog shocks and I really want to drive your truck and feel the difference.
Sure thing. The tough dogs in my opinion solved a lot of problems that the oem suspension couldn’t. (High speed control, brake dive etc) But, I always felt like the springs were always presenting the characteristics of the lift in the seat in steering wheel instead of the shocks. My adjusters were either filling in or out depending on what I was carrying or where I was driving. And either way I lost what I loved about the 200 in its stock form...it’s refinement and comfort. It was always tolerable but never like wow this feels great. For the price of the TD kit you really can’t beat it honestly, it works great.

I went with king 2.5s. I found a custom extended travel tundra kit new, never mounted, second hand. The price was right, I didn’t have to wait a year and the price left a little leftover in the budget to properly rebuild them. All were revalved accordingly with flutter valves and heavier rebound and the rears rebuilt with proper shafts and shaft ends for the land cruiser. ( I like to run heavy on my rebound and really light on my compression, most run 700# springs with added weight up front, I’m running 650s because I like my suspension soft)

at the end of the day I want the truck soak up all the little to medium stuff with ease. The faster you go the less you feel. A higher end shock isn’t really necessary if your crawling or cruising at 10-15mph. With the kings, you get road feedback but it’s never jarring or uncomfortable. Truck stays level around every turn at speed, every hit/ bounce cycles the suspension once. Not two or three times. It returns to center very quickly ready fir the next hit. You can really feel the shocks controlling the springs and the adjusters make significant changes in my option with the offered adjuster range. The truck feels controlled at all times.
As a family we spend a lot of time in the 200 (25k miles a year) So…Is it worth it to me? absolutely, I like to drive fast and I’m always paying attention to how the truck responds to each and every bump crack etc. We run 40-60mph in Pennsylvania Coal a few times a month and that’s what I built it for. It all translates really well to street driving and so far so good. I’m also excited to get the added weight in the front and see how that changes things.

They take time to get right, and effort to fit and dial in. With that being said I enjoy the effort and I’m one of those people who pulls over while driving to make adjustments often. I used to race Motocross and properly working suspension is something I’ve always appreciated.

The Trail Tailor tour flex springs are great as well. Very comfortable with just loaded drawers and very limited sag when I tow with 400 added pounds in the rear. I have airbags installed at the moment. I towed the trailer the day after I installed the suspension. It was a 600 mile trip with 5# of air and they weren’t necessary. I’ll be going to 35s and progressive bump stops in the rear soon and losing the airbags.

In conclusion, budget will always play a large roll in people’s decision and I would recommend tough dogs to anyone. With that being said I’m really happy with the change. I will continue to fiddle, but I’m at the best starting point I’ve ever been at with aftermarket suspension.
 
Sure thing. The tough dogs in my opinion solved a lot of problems that the oem suspension couldn’t. (High speed control, brake dive etc) But, I always felt like the springs were always presenting the characteristics of the lift in the seat in steering wheel instead of the shocks. My adjusters were either filling in or out depending on what I was carrying or where I was driving. And either way I lost what I loved about the 200 in its stock form...it’s refinement and comfort. It was always tolerable but never like wow this feels great. For the price of the TD kit you really can’t beat it honestly, it works great.

I went with king 2.5s. I found a custom extended travel tundra kit new, never mounted, second hand. The price was right, I didn’t have to wait a year and the price left a little leftover in the budget to properly rebuild them. All were revalved accordingly with flutter valves and heavier rebound and the rears rebuilt with proper shafts and shaft ends for the land cruiser. ( I like to run heavy on my rebound and really light on my compression, most run 700# springs with added weight up front, I’m running 650s because I like my suspension soft)

at the end of the day I want the truck soak up all the little to medium stuff with ease. The faster you go the less you feel. A higher end shock isn’t really necessary if your crawling or cruising at 10-15mph. With the kings, you get road feedback but it’s never jarring or uncomfortable. Truck stays level around every turn at speed, every hit/ bounce cycles the suspension once. Not two or three times. It returns to center very quickly ready fir the next hit. You can really feel the shocks controlling the springs and the adjusters make significant changes in my option with the offered adjuster range. The truck feels controlled at all times.
As a family we spend a lot of time in the 200 (25k miles a year) So…Is it worth it to me? absolutely, I like to drive fast and I’m always paying attention to how the truck responds to each and every bump crack etc. We run 40-60mph in Pennsylvania Coal a few times a month and that’s what I built it for. It all translates really well to street driving and so far so good. I’m also excited to get the added weight in the front and see how that changes things.

They take time to get right, and effort to fit and dial in. With that being said I enjoy the effort and I’m one of those people who pulls over while driving to make adjustments often. I used to race Motocross and properly working suspension is something I’ve always appreciated.

The Trail Tailor tour flex springs are great as well. Very comfortable with just loaded drawers and very limited sag when I tow with 400 added pounds in the rear. I have airbags installed at the moment. I towed the trailer the day after I installed the suspension. It was a 600 mile trip with 5# of air and they weren’t necessary. I’ll be going to 35s and progressive bump stops in the rear soon and losing the airbags.

In conclusion, budget will always play a large roll in people’s decision and I would recommend tough dogs to anyone. With that being said I’m really happy with the change. I will continue to fiddle, but I’m at the best starting point I’ve ever been at with aftermarket suspension.
Thanks, that's a tremendously great explanation.

For me I'd like to balance offroad performance with better city manners (since almost half my driving is in the pothole-ridden streets around Chicago) while still retaining stability with I load up for a road trip (up to 1000# over GWVR with the trailer attached). The TD 45s have done well on trails, though they seem to be optimal offroad in the 15-25 mph range. My setup feels planted at speed when unloaded, though it definitely requires stiffening the rear shock compression adjusters when towing. But I'd like to be able to soak up the sh*tty city streets better since although they're only half my miles I'm doing them probably 85-90% of the year.
 
Glad to hear another LC will be registered in CO....Cruisers are made for the snow and mountains!
Where will you be moving in Colorado?
We are moving to Golden. I’m pretty excited about it. My brother lives in Georgetown and brother in law lives in Ft Collins. We were out there for 6 weeks earlier in the year scouting. Honestly, the housing market alone had a huge influence on where we settled lol. It’s crazy. What about yourself?
 
Thanks, that's a tremendously great explanation.

For me I'd like to balance offroad performance with better city manners (since almost half my driving is in the pothole-ridden streets around Chicago) while still retaining stability with I load up for a road trip (up to 1000# over GWVR with the trailer attached). The TD 45s have done well on trails, though they seem to be optimal offroad in the 15-25 mph range. My setup feels planted at speed when unloaded, though it definitely requires stiffening the rear shock compression adjusters when towing. But I'd like to be able to soak up the sh*tty city streets better since although they're only half my miles I'm doing them probably 85-90% of the year.
I completely understand. The cool thing about kings is how incredibly versatile they can be with valving. I found tires to make a huge impact on city driving comfort. 10ply tires really beat you up. I frequently drive in Philly and it makes you second guess your suspension decision at times it’s so bad.
 
Sure thing. The tough dogs in my opinion solved a lot of problems that the oem suspension couldn’t. (High speed control, brake dive etc) But, I always felt like the springs were always presenting the characteristics of the lift in the seat in steering wheel instead of the shocks. My adjusters were either filling in or out depending on what I was carrying or where I was driving. And either way I lost what I loved about the 200 in its stock form...it’s refinement and comfort. It was always tolerable but never like wow this feels great. For the price of the TD kit you really can’t beat it honestly, it works great.

I went with king 2.5s. I found a custom extended travel tundra kit new, never mounted, second hand. The price was right, I didn’t have to wait a year and the price left a little leftover in the budget to properly rebuild them. All were revalved accordingly with flutter valves and heavier rebound and the rears rebuilt with proper shafts and shaft ends for the land cruiser. ( I like to run heavy on my rebound and really light on my compression, most run 700# springs with added weight up front, I’m running 650s because I like my suspension soft)

at the end of the day I want the truck soak up all the little to medium stuff with ease. The faster you go the less you feel. A higher end shock isn’t really necessary if your crawling or cruising at 10-15mph. With the kings, you get road feedback but it’s never jarring or uncomfortable. Truck stays level around every turn at speed, every hit/ bounce cycles the suspension once. Not two or three times. It returns to center very quickly ready fir the next hit. You can really feel the shocks controlling the springs and the adjusters make significant changes in my option with the offered adjuster range. The truck feels controlled at all times.
As a family we spend a lot of time in the 200 (25k miles a year) So…Is it worth it to me? absolutely, I like to drive fast and I’m always paying attention to how the truck responds to each and every bump crack etc. We run 40-60mph in Pennsylvania Coal a few times a month and that’s what I built it for. It all translates really well to street driving and so far so good. I’m also excited to get the added weight in the front and see how that changes things.

They take time to get right, and effort to fit and dial in. With that being said I enjoy the effort and I’m one of those people who pulls over while driving to make adjustments often. I used to race Motocross and properly working suspension is something I’ve always appreciated.

The Trail Tailor tour flex springs are great as well. Very comfortable with just loaded drawers and very limited sag when I tow with 400 added pounds in the rear. I have airbags installed at the moment. I towed the trailer the day after I installed the suspension. It was a 600 mile trip with 5# of air and they weren’t necessary. I’ll be going to 35s and progressive bump stops in the rear soon and losing the airbags.

In conclusion, budget will always play a large roll in people’s decision and I would recommend tough dogs to anyone. With that being said I’m really happy with the change. I will continue to fiddle, but I’m at the best starting point I’ve ever been at with aftermarket suspension.

So I take it you did the whole tundra front end conversion? I've got Kings on order. They should be ready to ship my May 2022!!! :O
 
In preparation for our move out west to Colorado next month I’ve been trying to get the 200 all squared away since I have a lot of space to work on it in PA. I’m pretty much on schedule with all my maintenance items at this point ( last thing I’ll be doing is brakes and wheel bearings next week).
I was also able to make some fun improvements to the truck as well. I’ve been accumulating parts over the last few months and finally found the motivation and time to get almost everything installed. Sliders and all new suspension went on last week. Next week, my bumper should come back from paint. I’ll have it installed with my winch shortly.

I went from Tough Dogs to properly tuned Kings and it feels night and day, now that everything is settled in I’m really happy with how it all turned out. I’m a touch stiff in the front with my 650# springs. The bumper should clear that right up. I’m also at about an inch of preload up front, the second inch should give way more than what I need to maintain my ride height with the bumper and 650s.

disregard the resi line hitting the control arm so aggressively. I was making quit a few adjustments and moved it over to access my preload easier. It is back facing strength down now.

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which airbags are these? Slee advises against airbags. I can see why if they are the styl I had on my old tundra where they attach top and bottom and could limit suspension travel when offroading. These you have don't appear to be attached. I'd kinda like some for occasional towing, but the 200 rides so nice I'm heistant.
 
Do these play nice with the seal? I have been considering one of these but concerned it may tear up the seal over time.


Yes the edge is inside the seal, so it still seals and you can run the cooler with it in there. Mine is slightly different just black and white.
The bottom of the try does get cold if running the cooler and what is in the tray also gets cold.
 
which airbags are these? Slee advises against airbags. I can see why if they are the styl I had on my old tundra where they attach top and bottom and could limit suspension travel when offroading. These you have don't appear to be attached. I'd kinda like some for occasional towing, but the 200 rides so nice I'm heistant.
Those look like the same Firestone airbags I have

If you deflate them to a nominal PSI they compress just fine and won't limit rear suspension travel. If they are fully inflated then yes they will, but you should only really inflate them when you have a significantly larger load than normal (i.e. I only inflate mine when I add 1000# to the hitch for towing)

Here's how they compress with 2-3 psi in them...
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and extend as well...
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