Well it seems the '08 200 series is going to have to be sold. Cash is needed-

[mcgaskins]

well this turned into a porsche complaint thread pretty quick.

I'd wouldn't say people are complaining just adding a dash of realism. It's very obvious by the "what's your other car" thread there's a LOT of love for Porsche here, but it's not a very logical argument to sell a Toyota for a Porsche to save money and that's what everyone is saying.

 

[NetJunky]

200 owners owning Porsches...ironic. LOL!

had my fair share, and nothing replaces a Land Cruiser or a Toyota in reliability and durability.

 

[Markuson]

well this turned into a porsche complaint thread pretty quick.

Nah. Lots of Porsche fans here...

...Just not within the context of the OP's stated goal of buying a Porsche to help "save money for college."

 

[steenh]

I've owned 2 P-cars over the years, both 911's. I didn't own either of them to save money, and they lived up to that reputation. Loved them both and wish I still had at least one of them, but get ready to spend some cash keeping them on the road.

 

[jblatl]

Ok, I will say something good about German cars. Two of the best cars I ever had was a 1996 BMW M3 and a 1990 Mercedes 300CE-24 Sportline edition. After I was tired of these cars the were passed on to other people in my family and they would not die. My mom started driving the Mercedes when she blew up the motor in her Supra, she drove the Mercedes until it had 300k on it. Although she has a new Lexus sports car again. My little brother tried very hard to kill the M3 and sold it with over 200k on the odometer. Funny thing is he has a new land cruiser now also....

I have used German cars as toys, but have always kept a good Toyota SUV for the past 25 years to rely on.

Stay with Toyota products....

 

[sickspeed]

I'll echo what others have said as far as budgeting a few grand a year to keep a p-car on the road. I've owned many audi/porsche products and can attest to the costs that quickly add up. Even basic items cost more because the parts and labor are marked up. Keep in mind too that a cayenne gts takes premium gas and gets about 3 mpg. LCs don't sip fuel but they do take regular gas and are worlds more reliable and affordable to run and maintain that Porsches.

I currently have a Audi Q7 TDI that will be getting bought back by Audi as part of the diesel scandal settlement and recently picked up its replacement, a 2015 Dodge Durango R/T. I really wanted to get a Cayenne GTS or Turbo but just couldn't justify the costs and likely time at the shop. Had a wiper motor, fuel filler actuator, seat belt buckle, ad blue sensor, etc. fail randomly on the Q7 and you don't even want to know what they cost to repair. That's just the random stuff. The Durango has been great so far and it really close specs wise to being a poor mans Cayenne. Its on a mercedez GL chasis but with a 390hp 5.7 Hemi, awd and cylinder deactivation on regular gas but seats 6. MSRP on a Durango RT is in the mid-40s compared to a Cayenne GTS at twice that. Something to consider.

But if you truly want to free up cash, Porsche is probably not going to help you with that.

 

[FatHero]

Recent experiences with German cars echo what a lot of the others have said - reliable they ain't. Wife had 2 back to back X6 (2009 and a 2013) leases, and they spent their fair amount of time in the shop for various issues. We've had some BMW's (2 E46 M3's, E39 M6, E60 550i, E65 745i) and a 996 series 911. Got rid of most them while still on warranty which means they were still young (less than 3 years old) but they still required quite a few more visits for unscheduled service than my Toyotas. The techs at BMW and Audi (plus the finance manager at Audi and a salesman at Porsche) have advised off the record to not keep the cars past warranty as issues would happen and they would be expensive.

 

[Canyonero]

Looks like the OP is getting a free education in this thread. No need to sell the LC, problem solved!

 

[steenh]

If I was forced to go from a $30k truck to a $20k vehicle, I'd be in a built out 100 series in a heartbeat... probably a lot less than $20k at that.

 

[TonyP]

Or a Camry

 

[krice118]

Save $? Get a 3rd gen 4Runner........ or a 4th gen at that

 

[COLandCrusher]

Yes, thank you all! A lot of things to think about- I had a '1979 911SC for 9 years and it was very reliable. Maintenance was a few hundred bucks a year. It was a daily driver - I had my 98 Cruiser for winters and road trips. I was hoping the reliability of that would be similar to the GTS. Also, I get 12 MPG on average and an '08 GTS seems to be averaging 14.5 in real world mileage web sites. My son will be going to college, and so I was thinking selling the Cruiser and buying something 10K less than what I sell it for would leave me in a better situation to free up some cash. I did call around and an oil change is $125 for the GTS. It was $85 for my Cruiser at the dealer. And the off roadability of a Cayenne is pretty awesome. A friend I know has an 06 Cayenne I think it is, and she loves it. Maintenance costs and reliability has been great, and she said in the last 6 years her only expensive repair was a "u joint" I think she said. It was about $2200. So we'll see. How much do you think the Cruiser should sell for?

 

[ranma21]

Yes, thank you all! A lot of things to think about- I had a '1979 911SC for 9 years and it was very reliable. Maintenance was a few hundred bucks a year. It was a daily driver - I had my 98 Cruiser for winters and road trips. I was hoping the reliability of that would be similar to the GTS. Also, I get 12 MPG on average and an '08 GTS seems to be averaging 14.5 in real world mileage web sites. My son will be going to college, and so I was thinking selling the Cruiser and buying something 10K less than what I sell it for would leave me in a better situation to free up some cash. I did call around and an oil change is $125 for the GTS. It was $85 for my Cruiser at the dealer. And the off roadability of a Cayenne is pretty awesome. A friend I know has an 06 Cayenne I think it is, and she loves it. Maintenance costs and reliability has been great, and she said in the last 6 years her only expensive repair was a "u joint" I think she said. It was about $2200. So we'll see. How much do you think the Cruiser should sell for?

Bear in mind a 79 911 doesn't has all the electronic bell and whistle to worry about. Most of the German vehicle in the 80s are quite reliable too especially the Benz. Give it a shot for the Cayenne and let us know how it goes.

 

[sickspeed]

Yes, thank you all! A lot of things to think about- I had a '1979 911SC for 9 years and it was very reliable. Maintenance was a few hundred bucks a year. It was a daily driver - I had my 98 Cruiser for winters and road trips. I was hoping the reliability of that would be similar to the GTS. Also, I get 12 MPG on average and an '08 GTS seems to be averaging 14.5 in real world mileage web sites. My son will be going to college, and so I was thinking selling the Cruiser and buying something 10K less than what I sell it for would leave me in a better situation to free up some cash. I did call around and an oil change is $125 for the GTS. It was $85 for my Cruiser at the dealer. And the off roadability of a Cayenne is pretty awesome. A friend I know has an 06 Cayenne I think it is, and she loves it. Maintenance costs and reliability has been great, and she said in the last 6 years her only expensive repair was a "u joint" I think she said. It was about $2200. So we'll see. How much do you think the Cruiser should sell for?

With both sets of wheels and tires you might be able to get 30k for the LC. There might be a buyer to pay a bit more but a 2008 with 130k+ is on the cusp of a bargain proposition. I have seen multiple 08s with similar mileage sell in my area recently for under 28k, for reference. Yours might bring more given you're in CO. I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2010 w/ 100k for 32k. 30k plus or minus a couple grand for yours is certainly reasonable.

As far as the Cayenne, keep in mind that they eat tires and on a 21" wheel that adds up as does the 14mpg on premium gas. The turbos actually tend to be a bit more reliable (especially the first gen) and ever so slightly more fuel efficient, btw. And the 2009 Cayennes received updates to the nav and dash. I also wouldn't suggest taking a Cayenne GTS offroad unless you're just talking some gravel. All that being said, I still really want a Cayenne and if money were no object, I'd be running a 200 and a GTS alternating days of the week. Life is too short to drive boring cars.

 

[a_traut_man]

If I was forced to go from a $30k truck to a $20k vehicle, I'd be in a built out 100 series in a heartbeat... probably a lot less than $20k at that.

That is it, still awesome, still reliable, still a lot of life left, and you could buy some goodies and still be saving as much (if not more) than it sounds like expecting to save with the first plan

 

[COLandCrusher]

Welllll OK, after pondering this situation, and researching other vehicles, I have come to the conclusion that this was a really stupid idea! Like maybe I had a bout of temporary insanity. Keeping my cruiser and that's that. : )

 

[Markuson]

Welllll OK, after pondering this situation, and researching other vehicles, I have come to the conclusion that this was a really stupid idea! Like maybe I had a bout of temporary insanity. Keeping my cruiser and that's that. : )

GOOD CALL!!!!!! Now you can wave at the Cayenne's in the Porsche Service Bay on your way to the dirt.
Nothing quite like a 911 (no comment on the SUV), but my budget just can't handle the cost or the upkeep.

 

[D21FJ60]

Good thing noone had to resort to applying electroshock therapy in this bout of insanity...

 

[taccruiser97]

Or a Camry

94 Camry V6, bought new, not totally problem free, but just kicked over 265,000 miles. My work car, helps keep the miles off my Cruiser.

 

[DeckerT4R]

Just as a point of reference...I was a bmw tech at a high end independent shop. I love German cars, i own 2 of them. We found that repair cost average 3-5% of new car cost annually or in the case of an ///M car its more 5-7%. 100K car = 3-5K a year in service. You might save money up front but it'll come back to get you later. I don't have experience with Porsche, but i would imagine its similar. That said, it you want a cayenne, go for it! I kinda want an X5M for the Mrs's to replace our 335.