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FYI, I've been watching flight prices and looks like $400-450 to fly direct from PHL to SLC. I'll keep watching to see if prices come down at all.

Flying into Denver is cheaper and would likely be cheaper to ship the trucks, but then we'd have to drive 70 over all the passes in the middle of winter which may or may not be a logistical challenge.

We could also fly into Grand Junction in the $500-525 range. No direct flights, so overall travel time about the same when you factor in a layover.
 
$333 direct in and out of Denver. 16-25th.
Denver to Moab 5hr20min drive.


$414 direct in and out of SLC. Would need to leave Wed the 15th at 6pm to get this price, return 25th at 11am.
SLC to Moab 3hr40min drive.
 
I am going to look at Newark or lehigh valley to Denver/SLC...both are about an hour from me. if the price is drastically higher, I will drive to Philly though.
 
PHL - DEN Direct 3/16/17 8:18am - 10:26am
DEN - PHL Direct 3/25/17 11:23am - 5:04pm

$334 Round Trip. Seems pretty reasonable.
 
For those that have been on HITR before, do you think a hardshell RRT would be unwise due to raised center of gravity?

@LandCruiserPhil did you run the trail with your campteq?

Yes, no concerns
This a great trail and everyone should run but just dont underestimate it. It very remote and nothing is close if you have problems. The challanges are non stop and you will be a better driver when you are done.:)

 
Phil, your latest video is where we camped for the evening.
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Your previous video must have been further down the trail? The above photo is as far as we got, we camped for the night and then went back out the next day.
 
Morgan are you putting a RTT on top of the 42?! :)
 
Morgan are you putting a RTT on top of the 42?! :)
That would be pretty interesting, but no...thinking about sticking on on the 80.
 
I highly recommend flying into Salt Lake Cityin March rather than into Denver. An expected five hour drive west from Denver could take a lot longer than that if there is snow in the equation. Just sayin..............
 
If the flight is $300, or $500, I don't care, as long as it's nonstop, and we fly in/out of SLC. In the grand scheme of things, is two bills going to make a difference??? What could change my mind is truck shipping expenses. I'll start getting an idea on what it's going to cost to get our rigs out there and back. We'll see what the price difference is, if any, between using Denver, or SLC as our rendezvous. I'd prefer to avoid driving from Denver in the Winter.
 
Ben, Aaron, and I had previously set the 30th of this month as the cut off.

We ask for a firm commitment by Oct 30th, at which point we will start locking down travel plans and shipping logistics.

We're calling this closed as of today, due to the fact that we have six committed rigs. @fireball ,@Pacer , @mryanangel , @Stoshu , and myself. @SAS is going to meet up with us out there, being that he is a Colorado resident. Unfortunately, @maxse01 will be unable to make this trip.
Gary, @shmukster , may be joining us as a passenger (this, I encourage). I prefer to keep it at six rigs, anymore than this, and it starts to become a large group.
 
I spoke with Aaron @Riverrunner from Summit Auto Transport today about shipping our rigs. Summit Auto Transport (303) 524-9122 Auto Shipping specialists
He came through for me earlier this year when I had to ship Gary's 40 to Moab with less than a week's notice!

He believes we can ship our five trucks on one trailer, round trip, for approximately $2K per truck. Maybe even less since it would pretty much be a full load. His only real concern is that none of our rigs are over seven feet tall. The only truck I'm not sure about is yours, Morgan @mryanangel I know you went to 37's, and may have a RTT at that point. What is the height of your rig with, and without the RTT?

The cost difference between shipping to Denver and SLC is minimal. So, we should book our flights to SLC. This way we avoid a longer drive from Denver. Ben is going to look into getting someone in SLC to let us use their place as a destination for our trucks. This would be ideal for two main reasons. We don't have to physically be there when the trucks are dropped off/picked up, AND we would not have to rent a car for ten days.
Land in SLC, take a cab to our trucks, let the adventures begin! Hopefully.

Let's book some flights!
 
I will measure my truck when I get home. I think without a RTT, it is just under 7'. with a RTT I suspect it will be over 7'.
 
March? It's going to be cold! And windy. You will have the place to yourselves. Sounds like a great adventure. Be careful though. I know @beno did a winter trip and got turned around by slippery conditions on the first major shelf road below the alcove.

Dang-I watched the ACC video above of descending the chute. That's an easy spot. Just close your eyes and keep the truck level. That will keep you further left, level and no wheel lift or drama. There's a scarier spot not far after that! And one right after that, and ....

I agree that SLC is where you want to fly, not Denver. If there is any snow at all out of Denver, you have to climb to 11,000 feet which can be an issue even in a Land Cruiser. From Salt Lake, you can get out to Hole in the Rock and 3000 feet lower, and the weather is overall, significantly better.

Going to follow this thread if that's OK.
 
Dang!! With all the expense involved I hope you guys are able to spend more time out west than HITR. There is a ton of great stuff in the area.
Johns Canyon just an example below in the pic and just around the corner from HITR. In addition to tons of Indian ruins on the side of Hwy 276.

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Ya-and Blue Canyon/Red Canyon. Radium King. Henry Mountains. Lots and lots of stuff right there.
 
The proposed trip is 10 days with travel day bookends so we have 8 full days of fun. We only need 3-4 for HiTR, so we have a few other days to fill so please keep the ideas coming!

Maybe we should consider flying into Phoenix and meeting up with those Copper State Cruiser guys for a run up north to Halls Crossing.
 
After HitR, consider backtracking to the Bear's Ears and taking the back scenic way to Canyonlands via Beef Basin. The only down side would be if there is significant snow this year, which can block the road right at the bears ears, or turn it into a quagmire of mud. This is about 2-3 days worth of travel and pretty spectacular. As a bonus, your outlet is over Elephant Hill and into the Needles district of Canyonlands NP. From there, it is possible to pick up the trail through Lockhart Basin which will take you all the way back to Moab, with some of the best scenery and remote travel anywhere. Or, you could just pick up pavement there, and make your way back to Moab on the highway.

Be aware though, we have been denied access in early May-you can ask @beno about getting caught in the snow right around 2009 or so. Other years we've gone through in late April with dry conditions. One time the trail was fully blocked by a large downed tree-we could pick our way around but a large chainsaw would have been nice.

If you did the Elk Ridge/Beef Basin/Canyonlands/Lockhart that would take about 3-4 days depending on trail conditions.


Another option right in the HitR area would be to pick up the trail north into the Maze at Hite, and spend a few days in the Maze, going out to the Dollhouse if conditions allow. You need permits from the Park Service and they enforce it. You can call the Han Flat ranger station to make sure the Flint trail is passable so you have a way out to fuel at the end. That would dump you out in Green River on I-70-perfect for getting back to SLC. Just be aware that the Maze is even more remote, and has no water, and that time of year likely no people either. If you can get Dollhouse 1&2 campsites they are the best. "Maze Overlook" is also spectacular.

You can also get into the Maze via Poison Springs (pick up the trail between Hite and Hanksville). Very spectacular scenery, but it could be difficult to cross the Dirty Devil River if there's a lot of runoff. If you know where to look, lots of great petroglyphs on the first part of this trail, and after the river crossing the scenery is magical all the way to Sunset Pass and into the Maze.


One last idea would be to drive from Salt Lake to Moab, and do trails in Moab first, get the feel for sandstone, and then go out to Hole in the Rock. 2-3 days in Moab is pretty fun. In fact Hell's Revenge one day, followed by Golden Spike the next, and you would be all schooled and tuned up for HitR. After HitR, directly back to SLC. That would use up your 8 days.

Sorry this got long winded, but it's a great place. I usually try and spend 2 weeks at a time there, there is so much to do.
 

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