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Believe it IS in the users manual for towing that you should be in S.
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Not in either of my manuals.
I highlighted it for you. This is for the 2016-2021 model years. It would be S4 for the 6-speed transmission.
This has been such a good thread to read. Just completed our first trip. Using WD anti sway hitch, it’s towed beautifully. I kept in S4 or lower on nearly any incline and for engine braking. My tongue is still sitting just slightly too high, think I’ll need a bigger drop on the hitch.
averaged about 10 mpg round trip going 55-70mph going up and down nearly 6000 ft elevation change. There were a couple times I felt the back sink down and come back up. I don’t know what that is about or if it’s just normal tow.
averaged about 10 mpg round trip going 55-70mph going up and down nearly 6000 ft elevation change. There were a couple times I felt the back sink down and come back up. I don’t know what that is about or if it’s just normal tow.
Congrats on the first trip!
I'm glad you all had a great time and the LX570 met (deservedly high) expectations.
I’ve been looking (online) at the Sol Horizon for months. Let us know what you think of it, what you like and dislike, etc. More pics are always welcome!
Thanks all for the valuable info here! I apologize if this has been addressed and I missed it - I am working my way through the thread and am only on page 20 of 40.
I just picked up a Grand Designs 2400 BH (dry weight about 5600# IIRC) that I will be towing with my 2010 LX570. It came with all the goodies from the previous owner including an Equilizer hitch. I have found the owners manual on the hitch and am looking to walk through their process of adjusting it specific to my setup and want to know if others have done this with an AHC system and how (if at all) this changes the set up process described in the manual.
I just picked up a Grand Designs 2400 BH (dry weight about 5600# IIRC) that I will be towing with my 2010 LX570. It came with all the goodies from the previous owner including an Equilizer hitch. I have found the owners manual on the hitch and am looking to walk through their process of adjusting it specific to my setup and want to know if others have done this with an AHC system and how (if at all) this changes the set up process described in the manual.
Here’s a few shots from the weekend!
We debated for a long time between this and more traditional trailers. After one trip and countless hours of research, here is my take. I tried to be critical, but we absolute loved our first trip. It was in the 30s at night and slept well with furnace at 68 all night. After 4 days, we only used one propane tank.
Pro:
- Build quality seems top notch for an industry full of cheap build quality. All aluminum tube welded design was an appeal for taking off road.
- Interior design is very well thought out. It's clear they have a talented design team.
- Love the modern look and cabinetry seems to be quality (they build their own with a CDC in house)
- Beautiful lighting
- Ton of features packed in small footprint
- Tires on the rover package look great.
- The wall to wall window is AMAZING
- Seems spacious inside for its size.
- Pull out exterior grill and fridge are awesome.
- No way around the fact it's expensive compared to what you can get from others in terms of size and features. Then again, in comparison, its cheap (kinda) compared to airstream.
- No slide out
- Limited storage even though they maximized well
- Grey/black water tank being combined limits extended boon dock trips length without getting creative
- AC is loud on full speed fan (but works well)
- Single axle makes tire blow out a scary thought
- Really wish it was 8 foot wide, since the tires stick out, its still the same concern on the road. Their Terra model is.
- Limited cargo weight
- Spare is not off road tire
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Funny that is the exact same model we were considering! Would also like to hear how you liked it! My son really wanted the bunks
Thank you! Sounds very much inline with what I had expected/wanted to hear.
The combined grey/black water tanks caught me by surprise - I somehow missed that detail. Does this mean you cannot dump (grey) water from the sink without simultaneously dumping the black water tank? That's a pretty huge minus for how we camp. Our grey water never contains anything other than actual water, or biodegradable soap, so I have no problem dumping it at random spots in the woods (away from water sources, of course). However I wouldn't want to dump the black water anywhere other than sani stations. Having the two combined would be a pretty seriously limiting factor.
Are the tanks and their plumbing easy to access? I wonder how difficult it would be to re-route the grey water such that it dumps immediately and doesn't go into the black water tank. Or perhaps setup some valves to have both options available...
A few questions if you don't mind:
- How loud is the heater? (Have you even had a chance to use it yet?)
- Is the interior stove powerful enough to handle cooking needs, easily boil water, etc.?
- How long does the water heater take to actually heat up water?
That is correct on the grey/black. What we did is capture most the grey by putting a tub in the sink then dumping outside when done washing dishes, etc. Still, I'd love to have a separate tank and may research it. I imagine someone has done the mod already. The access looks very straight forward as its open under the trailer. I'll grab some photos next week when I get the trailer again. I also was thinking about rerouting grey to another add on tank, if possible. There are a few IntechRV facebook groups where we got a lot of info from. People have done some great improvements.
The heater is very quite IMO and gets hot! It took a while to figure out the best temp. I need to experiment with using the heater with a fan on to spread the heat a little better. Its located under the fridge area. The AC is much louder. We haven't used the interior stove yet beyond testing, but looks to work fine. The water heater got burning hot pretty quick. You are able to use both battery and LP to heat it at the same time. I waited 20 minutes and it was burning hot.
Also, the fridge worked great. It's a 3 way fridge that can work on LP, battery or shoreline. The outside fridge also worked perfect.
Feel free to PM me with any questions at all.
Great info, thank you!
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Sounds like the grey tank dumps into the black and then the black dumps out?
I wish mine were combined like that. Most of the time we'll fill the grey tank well before the black, so I either need to catch sink water in a basin and pour it into the black tank, or if we fill the grey I need to take a basin outside and pour off a few gallons at a time of grey and then carry that back inside and dump in the black tank. That's actually a nifty design as (a) it would solve my type of issue and (b) it would help ensure you have sufficient water in the black tank to actually dump it (since you don't want to empty it when it only has a few gallons and stuff won't "wash" out...)
FYI dumping your grey water on the ground in many places is illegal. Not sure about how water + biodegradable soap is viewed, but the rangers/BLM/etc might object if they see it. I'm not trying to be judgmental, just stating it for others reading this.
Also kitchen and bath water gets surprisingly smelly in my experience, at least once it sits in the grey tank for a couple days...
I wish mine were combined like that. Most of the time we'll fill the grey tank well before the black, so I either need to catch sink water in a basin and pour it into the black tank, or if we fill the grey I need to take a basin outside and pour off a few gallons at a time of grey and then carry that back inside and dump in the black tank. That's actually a nifty design as (a) it would solve my type of issue and (b) it would help ensure you have sufficient water in the black tank to actually dump it (since you don't want to empty it when it only has a few gallons and stuff won't "wash" out...)
FYI dumping your grey water on the ground in many places is illegal. Not sure about how water + biodegradable soap is viewed, but the rangers/BLM/etc might object if they see it. I'm not trying to be judgmental, just stating it for others reading this.
Also kitchen and bath water gets surprisingly smelly in my experience, at least once it sits in the grey tank for a couple days...
We couldn't be happier with it! Still have yet to take it on a real trip but first impressions are:
-the interior space is very large with the slide
-you can access the kitchen and bathroom with the slide in
-the overall size is great - not as intimidatingly large as many BH models out there. We're a family of 4 plus a dog and this seems like it will be just right, even if we have a friend or two tag along with us.
-Many of the larger models add a couch which would not serve too much of a purpose for us and would add significant weight
-Many of the smaller models have the murphy bed instead of a dedicated room. The added storage in main bedroom is really impressive and worth the extra length, IMO.
-The pass thru storage is massive
-overall quality seems like a very good value. I was shocked to see a porcelain toilet!
-The LX pulled it great. I wouldn't want much more, but we brought it home over Floyd hill and Berthoud Pass with no issues at all. Honestly I was quite surprised/pleased with how well it did considering the weight of the trailer, the geometry of the LX, and the fact that I'm on 33"s..
Yes good point, always know the laws before dumping anything. I guess if my capacity wasn't so small I wouldn't have much issue. Having a diverted to flow grey to black as wanted would be best of both worlds.
It's definitely illegal here in BC, too.
I don't have a problem dumping our grey water, because I know what's in it. But of course, law enforcement will enforce the generic, one-size-fits-all laws; as they should.
Our last trailer had a portable, cassette-style toilet, which was very convenient because we could dump it into any porta-potty or restroom we passed. Having to find a sani station would definitely make life more difficult, but having to do that for grey water, too, would be a huge inconvenience. Being able to divert grey water from the black water tank would be a must for us.
I don't have a problem dumping our grey water, because I know what's in it. But of course, law enforcement will enforce the generic, one-size-fits-all laws; as they should.
Our last trailer had a portable, cassette-style toilet, which was very convenient because we could dump it into any porta-potty or restroom we passed. Having to find a sani station would definitely make life more difficult, but having to do that for grey water, too, would be a huge inconvenience. Being able to divert grey water from the black water tank would be a must for us.
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In my case the tanks are parallel to each other so there would be no flow. But if they were stacked that would be a great seto
in the meantime I’ll divert with a spare basin on occasion as required...
A grey water tank that "overflows" into the black water tank? That's a pretty clever idea!
