Towing Impression

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As I just got back from Sturgis where I trailered 2 big Harleys, I thought other might be interested in my impressions of my first tow. First to level set the specs of my rig - it's a 2000 LC with about 107k miles. I based lined all fluids including the diffs and TC with synthetics. Fresh tune-up as well. Mods so far include Ironman Pro Cell (about 2" lift) shocks, T-bar and springs with Slee UCAs. For tires I am running the BFG KO2 285s on a 16" rim. I also have rock sliders. At the last minute before the trip I've added a DT cat back system (see my other post on my impressions and mod on the DT system).

The trailer was a dual axle enclosed 12 x 7 with a weight of about 1,900 lbs empty carrying 2 big harleys with a weight of about 1,500 lbs and combined of 3,400 lbs. Inside the truck we carried about 250 lbs of cargo plus me and my buddy.

As a baseline MPG without trailering on a recent trip to Atlanta I was averaging about 15 MPG with the best tank at 16 mpg (going around 60-65 mph) and worst 14 mpg (about 75 mph). So the rule here is if you want better mileage - go slower.

Based in Chicago, we headed west on Route 20 until Sioux City where we stopped overnight. I90 is pretty boring so we thought a different route would be nicer but this route had many hills. From there we went north to 90 and on to Sturgis. On the way back we took I90 all the way.

Since my tires are taller than stock I corrected the miles by about 5% when calculating the MPG. So as far as mileage goes - going west - we averaged right around 10 MPG. Worst was about 8.5 and best was right around 11. The hills really kill the mileage. We could not use cruise since any hint of a small incline it would downshift quickly. Our average speed was 70-75 mph (corrected). The tire pressure was 45 PSI all the way around.

On the way back we increased the tire pressure to 55 PSI in the front and 65 PSI in the rears because the rears seemed flatter with the weight of the trailer. We also tried to go a little slower (60-65 mph) and drafting behind semis. All this seemed to increase milage slightly where we got close to 11 mpg. I had to plan ahead for every hill in that I would have to slowly increase speed before the hill since the slow down would be quite significant uphill otherwise it would have to downshift a gear or two. I did feel the engine was underpowered on the highway - hmmm maybe Slee's turbo would work nicely in this situation.

Conclusion - If I had to tow regularly I would buy something more appropriate or get a supercharger or turbo. Since I only tow on occasion maybe 2-3 times a year I am happy. Although next time I think I will rent an open trailer which should be lighter and better on fuel.

Lastly concerning the Doug Thorley exhaust - whenever it down shifted it was pretty loud and it downshifted often. So If I would tow more I would definately stay with the stock exhaust. I am still thinking if I should keep it or go back to stock.

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I forgot to mention that the coolant temp was rock solid at right around 185-190 F regardless with AC on full and going at speed up hill. I measured with the Torque app on andriod and an ELM ODBII wifi reader.
 
The 4-Speed 100s tow horrible. When I had a pop-up and towing through any hills, I would just use the overdrive button so I could drive as fast as possible. Land Cruiser brand has a history of highly reliable, underpowered engines!
 
Great report. Thank you. I'm above to tow a 6x12 cargo/camper conversion from San Diego to Chicago and back and going right through there. My trailer is weighting in at 2200lb and with some gear before the trip I should be right at 2500lb. How was braking? Running trailer brakes?
 
Right - braking. I had an e-brake controller installed at U-Haul so i would not have to use the truck's brakes exclusively. It did ok with the controller however, in stop and go traffic as I got on the outskirts of Chicago, my front brakes began to overheat a bit (slight burning smell). I should mention that I also had new rotors, pads, calipers and SS brake lines broken in properly ahead of the trailering. Maybe I did not properly adjust the e-brake controller but they (the trailer) were certainly working. But I think it was my driving style in the stop and go because many cars kept cutting in front of me when I left plenty of room for early and easy braking so I closed the gap a bit but I had to brake harder - hence the baked brake smell. My advice - avoid traffic if you can.

One other thing I became aware of is that people don't realize how much reaction time is needed when trailering. I had other drivers cut me off and turning in front of me, or passing me by very quickly and cutting in front of me. I now certainly have a very good appreciation of others when they are trailering.
 
I have a 99 with 4.88s and it is super heavy with lots of crap bolted to it and lots of people gear and dogs inside of it. I just got a flatbed trailer with a pop up camper on it, loaded weight is ~2200# or so and it doesn't tow very well. I would be curious to know how a similarly built 2006-2007 with 5spd and VVT would do.

It's not terrible, but like you lots of downshifting and crappy 9-10mpg.

My towing comparison might be spoiled....my work truck is a 2nd gen Tundra with the 5.7L.
 
Turn on the "power/sport" mode for the transmission when you tow, it'll help keep the transmission from hunting for gears as well as make it easier to tow up hills etc.
 
Turn on the "power/sport" mode for the transmission when you tow, it'll help keep the transmission from hunting for gears as well as make it easier to tow up hills etc.
It was on the whole time - I think it may have helped a little but still got the downshifts on hills.
 
How did the steering feel? My stock '99 with regular street tires felt pretty floaty with a popup on the back, canoe and kayak on the roof, 5 occupants, and the rear cargo area stuffed with gear.
 
Great write-up. I had a very similar experience in a very different truck: 5.4L Ford Expedition. Hills SUCKED. West Virginia mountains were rough. The Rockies - holy s***. I was on the shoulder doing 14 mph (that's miles per hour) up I-70 through Vail Pass. That was 1st gear. If I shifted to 2nd, it'd slow down. Meanwhile, we were getting our doors blown off by diesel pickups pulling much heavier loads - like 70+ mph.

We were pretty sure there were several conversations in those passing trucks that went something like "Look at these idiots... that's why we got the diesel honey"

My takeaway: If you regularly tow more than 3,000 lbs, there is simply no substitute for wheelbase and a turbo diesel.
 
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Have you towed much with your '06? I am very curious to know how much better the 5spd and VVT engines tow vs. my 4spd.
 
Have you towed much with your '06? I am very curious to know how much better the 5spd and VVT engines tow vs. my 4spd.

Very little - heaviest was a smallish ski boat / trailer. Guessing that was around 4,000 lbs. The 100 did fine around town, kinda sucked on the highway - downshifting from 4 to 3 often. This was from Atlanta to Alabama - so pretty low and mostly flat to rolling hills.
 
Some other folks on this forum have stated that the 4-speed LX/LC variants tow just fine.
They don't use Over Drive and keep the speed at 60mph or less.
 
Ok now here is the real question.... you trailered your bikes to sturgis?

haha - I knew I was going to get asked that one. On my first trip to Sturgis 10 years ago, we rode - which means we had to ship the tents and other bulky stuff to the camp site. If you've ever taken the route west on I90 - you would know how boring it is. Although having trailered the bikes I think I would maybe ride again next time. I found that when trailering - you bring more unnecessary stuff since you have the space. What is the saying that nature abhors a vacuum?
 
How did the steering feel? My stock '99 with regular street tires felt pretty floaty with a popup on the back, canoe and kayak on the roof, 5 occupants, and the rear cargo area stuffed with gear.

Get yourself some airbags for the springs. They will increase the ride quality and eliminate that floaty feeling.
 
I have had great luck with AirLift. This is the second vehicle I have had them in.

Two years ago in my 4Runner a bag ripped at the valve and they replaced the bag for $5 (to cover the shipping). They have superb customer service and stand behind their products.

However, I have heard good things about the Firestone airbags as well.
 
Some other folks on this forum have stated that the 4-speed LX/LC variants tow just fine.
They don't use Over Drive and keep the speed at 60mph or less.

Towing with my '99 seemed alright. Better than expected, really. My comparison was an FJ60 - terrible, and an FJ Cruiser - still not good.
 

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