So you guys are saying Toyota does not know how to design a crankshaft and bearing setup for the same. Right…
Thoughts From the 200 Crew On the LC250 Reveal
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Love the Twitter-level bad faith take, though.
We're saying something is wrong with many V35A-FTS engines, and it doesn't matter which model they're in, or where it was made. Toyota agrees. They agree enough to recall over 100k vehicles and offer new long blocks before your engine even fails. We're saying it's not a closed case because failures are happening outside of the stated recall window. We're saying any buyer should wait until this is actually fully sorted out or proceed with caution, especially with used purchases.
Ok, thanks.
So what is the root cause? Under designed oil pump? Wrong tolerances? Wrong materials? Weaker piston springs and fuel dilution? Or a design which is hard to manufacture? I think the later makes sense and may in fact not be easy to resolve.
All we can do is wait for Toyota to fix this. Since it is in many models I still have faith they will. Then in my mind it is time to buy one. This maybe a 2026 model year and up.
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well we are alll waiting with the same faith as you since 2018…..
reminds me of the bad transmission rx300, supra head gasket, oil, sludge, valley plate on the F models, differential problems on the LC500, that they never ever ever fixed
doesnt matter to me - like an abused woman after every problem i keep coming back - because i am a toyota fanboi slut
Or most models from the late-80s/early 90's that suffered head gasket failures when they were forced to remove asbestos. My '88 Supra Turbo was among those. 3.0 4runner/pickups were also notorious for popping headgaskets. But was a lot simpler problem and was eventually resolved by a revised HG material.
For clarity, I am also disappointed in Toyota regarding the 3.4 v6TT and the 4 banger in the new 4 runner/Prado offerings.
Good thing is I do not need a vehicle for a while as the two we have are both great. Eventually I do hope the 3.4 gets sorted as I will never buy the 4 banger.
All in all the 200 series is amongst the GOAT’s and the 250 is nowhere near, at least in Toyota clothes. I would in that class vehicle get a GX460.
Good thing is I do not need a vehicle for a while as the two we have are both great. Eventually I do hope the 3.4 gets sorted as I will never buy the 4 banger.
All in all the 200 series is amongst the GOAT’s and the 250 is nowhere near, at least in Toyota clothes. I would in that class vehicle get a GX460.
Hey, I consider you all Toyota friends and most of the time learn from this forum. I also do not put my words on a silver plate, so please bear with me.
That is all need to be said on this thread
200 > horse manure > 250
or
Michael Jordan > Oprah
Serious question maybe one of the resident experts can answer. Would it make more sense at this point to diagnose and fix the problem with the V35 or go with a clean sheet redesign? I’m sure they already have new stuff in the works over at the R&D department but how long does it take for a new engine to go from concept to production? Does anyone have any knowledge or insight on what Toyota NA has in the works for say 2030 and beyond?
too much $ has been spent
its here to stay
will run full 10 year cycle before changes
Take down a notch, man. We are just bringing additional facts and arguments to the discussion, instead of blindly accepting Toyota wants to screw us over and over and (like Ryan and I) we will keep coming back like good old sluts.
I am still not convinced about the cover-up operation Toyota might be doing, but I am also not confident enough to go drop (a lot) of coin in a 23 or 24 LX.
Even if Toyota does CIA level cover up..and kill leaders around the world, I will still keep buying them.Take down a notch, man. We are just bringing additional facts and arguments to the discussion, instead of blindly accepting Toyota wants to screw us over and over and (like Ryan and I) we will keep coming back like good old sluts.
I am still not convinced about the cover-up operation Toyota might be doing, but I am also not confident enough to go drop (a lot) of coin in a 23 or 24 LX.
I bleed Toyota.
Cheers, and thank you.
I admit I am a Toyota fanboy...my old 5th gen 4Runner, Prius, and Tundra have been incredible vehicles. Our LX is flat out amazing, even if it’s showing its age a bit at 16 years and 192k miles.
I hate to see a misstep from Toyota like this. I’d like to think I’m approaching this issue as honestly as I can. I’m not running around with my hair on fire dragging Toyota and screaming that it’s over for them, but I’m also not making excuses for Toyota or giving them a pass on what has been a long and obviously still unresolved issue.
I don’t think there’s any way they go back to the drawing board, so to speak, for these engines. They recoup R&D through extremely long generation runs; I agree this engine is here to stay.
I think the future is kind of up in the air across the board regarding regulations. Not to get political, but just for reference SCOTUS has basically overturned the chevron deference precedent, which effectively means federal agency mandates are now open to litigation. So…who knows?
This is hilarious to me. When you say “instead of blindly accepting”, you are implying that’s what I and others on my side of the issue are doing. This is a perfect example of a bad-faith take. Nowhere have I disparaged Toyota on this issue. It’s simply a real issue, and it is still unresolved, regardless of what you’re heard through the grapevine. That’s it.
I am as much of a Toyota fan as anyone else here, but it seems to me you’re looking for anything possible to cling to that helps you rationalize buying a used LX600. Go buy it right now; just do so with all the information.
My take would be to rather fight the enemy you know then engage with a new one.
Sorry to challenge and maybe did not get the context - I hope Toyota NA does zero and things get run from Japan. The whole 250 LC Prado debacle may have had enough US input already. I am interested in a Toyota designed for reliability and then properly build, not one with big cup holders…
Well said.
Ironically every 200 owner buys some cupholder that some guy crazy overcharges for online.
I am happy with my OEM cup holder just the way Toyota designed it.
It's Toyota...NOT bOEiNg
GX550 OT is probably the only truck I would replace my 200 with, but probably not until 10 years from later model years and only after my 200 has been ratted out/handed down to my son.
A fantastic looking truck and I believe Mr. T will get the kinks sorted out, despite it not necessarily being as robust a platform as the 200.
A fantastic looking truck and I believe Mr. T will get the kinks sorted out, despite it not necessarily being as robust a platform as the 200.
I was at the Toyota Gibralter... lots of underhanded things happen at Toyota too..
Then again I always also fly Boeing.... also fly Electra
I must have a death wish
wait a minute thats why ducati has a plate DETWISH
I literally said I am not doing that. Not convinced with Toyota's explanation, but I am also not convinced with yours and that is why I am challenging (both of them). It is just healthy and respectful conversation.
I am just saying Mr. T might be doing things right with this fiasco by replacing a whole bunch of engines proactively and there might not be a whole "bearing-gate" like some may think. I guess, time will tell.Yes! 100% the Prado fiasco with its 4 banger was absolutely driven by NA. That makes my blood boil much more than the TTV6
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